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Because they literally looked exactly like tigger and pooh walking next to each other. Guys, unless your contention here is that actually the winnie the pooh thing is racist against black people, then this is a misdirection.
Would you be comfortable calling Obama a tigger? You realize in a bar that would get you beat up right?
No it wouldn't. Of course it wouldn't. The average person isn't a hypersensitive violent psychopath, and PoC endure racist microaggressions all day without resorting to random fucking violence. Seriously this is the whitest fucking comment I've ever read.
And, importantly, the meme originates with a bunch of Mandarin speaking internet users. Why would they put a racist ENGLISH pun in their MANDARIN meme. The Mandarin name for Tigger ISN'T EVEN TIGGER. Unless you can find some way to turn "Tiao Tiao Hu" into the n-word it's not even relevant.
The original context for Xi being Pooh probably wasn't racist either, unless there's a similar connotation to yellow skin in Chinese culture. Therefore you could also dismiss the yellowface concerns because the original meme wasn't meant to be racist.
Of course we shouldn't do this, and instead accept that the meme is now racist because it's mainly used by Westerners who are well aware of the racist implications.
Of course you cantd ismiss the current context. But the current context of the meme is only rarely racist against Obama. He does not figure in the Xinnie the pooh shit. He figures in the original meme. Except for the very occasional cold warrior implying a collaboration between the two, which may involve a racist caricature of him, he's usually not even a figure.
The original where he does figure, was made by Chinese people who are being called racist based on an English interpretation of Mandarin text that the people involved in the discussion hasn't read and cannot read, in order to prove that white people are racist against Chinese people It is a totally unnecessary pretzel to tie yourself into. It is literally the meme in the OP.
They sure can. But unless you have proof that's happening making the assumption just because you want them to be racist is weird. Do you have the original text of the post? Did they say tigger? Did they Imply anything racist? Or did you make it all up in your brain.
No, but there a good chance there is one drunk one that would.
Who's in Paris? It isn't for us to say
Your argument requires a drunk mishearing "Tiao Tiao Hu" as the n-word and reacting with violence, something has gone wrong here.
Like the argument thread we've gone down involves claiming Chinese people are making English puns to get away with saying racist stuff against Obama, to prove that the same image is racist against Chinese people (Even though it was made by Chinese people) and therefore the use of related imagery by (mostly) white redditors is racist.
This is stupid. Its just silly. The Xinnie the pooh shit is racist because its coloring a Chinese guy yellow and inevitably leads into racist tirades. The original Chinese meme does not have to be racist against black people for that to be the case.
When you are talking about the hundred acre wood in a bar what do you call him? Tiao Tiao Hu?
I am not taking to the person who invented the meme. I am talking to you.
Numur. Because that's his name in Arabic. But I'm sure you were trying to make a point that has absolutely nothing to do with what we're talking about.
I don't wanna get all streamer about it but I think you could say numur in a gamer way
There is literally no word gamers could not make racist.
Yeah racists hate deniability, we all know they definitely don't love to play their little "teehee you're overreacting" games. OK sign anyone?