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Libs thinking we're on their side, until the point we reject electoralism and US imperialist propaganda. Then label as as "tankies".

Campists thinking we're on their side until the point we reject "AES" and "left unity". Then label as a "liberals".

Anarchists are clearly the rare species of "liberal tankie" ๐Ÿ˜†

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[โ€“] umbrella@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

hence why we need socialism first.

(please don't kill me)

[โ€“] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Most anarchists agree that there is need for some kind of transitional society. Just not what tankies call "socialism".

[โ€“] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

how is your conception of socialism different from "tankies"? i'll have to assume you mean "marxist-leninist" and is not a lib?

[โ€“] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 week ago

What do you mean exactly? Socialism or the transitional society?

For MLs, socialism is when the dictatorship of the proletariat is established and the state is run by "the proletariat" in order to lead to communism. Anarchists (ever since Bakunin) would point out that this would make them stop being the proletariat, but rather a class of bureaucrats. Also, means ends unity would dictate that this will not lead to a stateless society.

For me, "socialism" means worker control of the means of production.

The anarchist transitionary period is way harder to describe, since

  1. There are too many anarchist flavors for a consistent "prediction" or what have you
  2. The anarchist approach is generally less theleological. Therefore, they "predict" less and think that the people in the transitional period need to find out the rules of said society when they get the most feedback for it, i.e. when it's happening.
  3. I haven't put too much thought into how this would go about, to be honest.

However, the most important part is IMHO that the revolutionary cells working for communism are structured with horizontal hierarchies.