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[–] Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This link was originally added about 3 months ago by a single user and then removed by another, and ISIS was previously listed as an Israeli ally. Wikipedia is not a monolith.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 10 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

ISIS was on the Israeli side. Which it literally is with the Abu Shabab gang.

[–] Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world 0 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, and it still is on the Israeli side under 'Popular forces'. The article for Popular Forces specifically mentions abu-shabab.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

They reworked it into popular forces when it's literally just ISIS.

Also the death count at the top of the Wikipedia page invented 50 people who don't exist. It's 1139.

[–] Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Look, maybe you're right about that stuff, but it's pretty clear the image you shared doesn't reflect any reasonable interpretation of what happened on this wiki. You got duped. It's ok. Happens to everyone. Some turd attempted to smear Palestinians, and apparently, 2 hours wasn't fast enough for a volunteer to fix. The page DOES link Israeli support to Abu-shabab, who Israel has linked to ISIS. That dude can be bad even with no links to ISIS.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

You don't seem to understand. They removed a very clear connection to ISIS from Wikipedia, because everyone who saw it knows how bad that looks. Nobody is going to pop out the menu and then click on "popular forces" to find out that it is ISIS.

Also this is definitely not just some random dude. These are organized efforts from the Israeli government to edit Wikipedia in their favor.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/aug/18/wikipedia-editing-zionist-groups

[–] Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

I DO understand. Clearly, I do, since I bothered to dig into Wikipedia's very public history. The person who made the edit primarily made edits in ways that were defamatory to Palestinians and a few token attempts to hide their agenda. They are currently topic locked for the article in question. Maybe it's not a random dude, but I can't personally say for sure what this person is up to. None of this is relevant to the image that you shared clearly, including the IS being a Palestinians ally (which is false). You can't idiot proof information because idiots can't be trusted to read.

[–] Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My mistake: ISIS was added as a Hamas ally and removed TODAY. Within 2 hours of being posted.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

people of the west rely on wikipedia as a news source; so it's ALWAYS being watched.

[–] Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I believe you, but what a mistake to make with zero corroboration.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 20 hours ago

wikipedia isn't exactly reliable source of truth anyways. lol