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[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 35 points 3 days ago (4 children)
  1. Closed non-federated streaming platform; requires an Internet connection.
  2. Requires a subscription for a lot of basic functionality.
  3. Even though it requires a subscription, they barely pay artists - the only ongoing benefit to using a non-pirate setup.
  4. The increasing amount of "Perfect Fit Content" & LLM-generated music in playlists to avoid said payments.
  5. They provide a guaranteed platform to political podcasts.
  6. Audio quality is not only dependent on the subscription, but even the top-tier is generally subpar and can vary based on how they throttle you that day.
  7. As a platform for mass appeal, discoverability is, loosely speaking, crud.

Pick any of those you like.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

All the above points are valid except for this

requires an Internet connection.

You can easily download for offline listening with spotify. Even piracy will require internet connection for later offline consumption, and getting music from physical media is way more work than most realistically want to do today.

[–] Brunette6256@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Whats the pirate discover ability fix? I miss last.fm from back in the day... Always finding great small artists.

[–] godfish@lemy.lol 1 points 2 days ago

Discoverability is a difficult challenge in a pirate context, imo. Last.fm still exists, so do bandcamp and soundcloud. Pandora, Soma.FM, and both terrestrial and internet radio can still work if you find the right genre. The other options include going to your local library, and your local media store of choice.

Another one that works is finding out the songwriters, producers, and engineers on your favorite songs/albums and tracking down their discography. Often enough, you'll find similar-sounding music by tracking the tech guys.

[–] mudkip@lemdro.id 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Complain about paying artists yet the article is about how they automate piracy lol

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean, I did offer it as one of over a half-dozen reasons. And my opinion is just that you shouldn't go halfway. If you're going to pay a subscription, the artists and staff ought to get paid. Otherwise, go full pirate and if you want to support an artist, find a way to do so directly, without platforms or labels.

[–] tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What's wrong with just buying their album on like bandcamp?

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That not everyone is on bandcamp

[–] tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden 2 points 3 days ago

Yeah but the person I replied to said not to go halfway and I simply don't understand why one shouldn't use sites like bandcamp where available.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 days ago

Do we really need a federated streaming platform??

Musicbrainz is also not federated, neither is wikipedia.