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I know the self hosted communities are very pro open source, with which I largely agree, but PlexAmp is such a good player it makes sense to at least try it.
Bought a 200€ lifetime abonnement and my daughter have to pay to use Plex on her phone even when using my 200€ paid Plex server. They lost me when they asked the user of a paid subscritpion pay. Fuck it.
Must be a misunderstanding. Paid server; users do not need a subscription.
Ho they need it when using the application on android even if you have a lifetime server subscription. They may have reverted, but I was contacted by all my familly one week. They were asking why I wanted to make them pay to access my mediacenter and some told me to ask them directly if I needed money for some components.
Some even paid thinking the money went to me and I needed it for something.
I had an hard time understand the trouble since it was mentioned now where on the website of Plex that now user have to pay the application to access my paid server.
I took this as first signs of enshitification and left.
Plex joined google on my black list now.
Based on your comments, it sounds like maybe English isn’t your first language (no shade; your English is miles better than my any-other-language). But that, coupled with a Plex announcement that could’ve been written more clearly, it almost most certainly was a misunderstanding.
To be clear, when Plex removed their fully-free model, the only thing required was at least one paid subscription in the chain. Your lifetime paid server qualified, and no one else would’ve needed to pay. They haven’t reverted to this, this was how it was when they removed the fully-free model. I agree, Plex does carry some responsibility in making sure it was crystal clear. I wonder if they would’ve refunded your users that paid unnecessarily if you’d asked?
That Plex has continued to enshittify is without question. I just don’t think their paid model is the most egregious example of it.
Ha, thanks for the explanation, this explain that. It was a shit storm and on android when you opened the app ypu would be greeted by a popup asking to subscribe.
I seen that on the tablet and went full open source without looking back.
Yeah that not my first language, thanks for the understanding.
It was a bit of a shitstorm even in the English world. Plex definitely could’ve written the requirements more clearly.
I’m glad a full open-source stack works for you; I wish I could. There’s a few of my Plex users who just couldn’t make the jump to something like Jellyfin (and I’m unwilling to be their tech support), and honestly for me PlexAmp is so good as to make the problems of Plex overall be worth it.
Take care, friend.
I went for gelli as an android client for jellyfin, work great buy no chrome cast. I think my daughter use some thing like jellyamp which can chrome cast.
I use https://docs.wizarr.dev/ for on boarding user, it helped reduce the need of support. For the worst in tech I Boughy them a HDMI key. Set everything and sent it to them. They just had to connect to their WiFi... Which was pretty hard for some. Buy painless for me, they have childs to do tech support.
Annoyance: Can't scan your music library from the PlexAmp app, can't scan it from the Plex app either. Super frustrating when music as added and you have to struggle with pop-up navigation on the Plex desktop site on mobile.
Game breaker: maybe it's just really hard to find and undocumented, but there doesn't seem to be a way to use profiles with PlexAmp, either to have individual play history and playlists, or to age restrict some music content.
Dunno about plexamp, but Plex has an auto-scan built in. Its disabled by default, but works like a charm. It listens for new file events and general finds things before you complete a download or copy
Unfortunately, directory monitoring doesn't work if your music is on an NFS share.
A quick search shows alternatives to keep the functionality: https://github.com/TRaSH-Guides/Guides/blob/master/docs/Plex/Tips/Plex-media-server.md#scan-my-library-automatically
YT video linked in that post. Ultimately just takes a bit of effort to figure most things out IMO.
I had issues with auto scan years ago, just re-enabled it and it's working fine now so that's resolved, thanks.
The other issue is still a problem, and why I'll be switching to Navidrome for music. Jellyfin wasn't mature enough last time I tried to replace my lifetime Plex pass, but I have a feeling I'll be ditching Plex entirely soon.
In PlexAmp, on the bottom right, tap the gear. Tap account. Tap “switch user”.
Now switch users.
You hosting your plex service for other users outside of your home? I'm finding the ease of access for other users / the wife is the largest driving point for me to continue using plex.
I could configure a VPN and attach my jellyfin server to that network however that's a large hurdle for some of the general population users I have on my plex currently.
For something on-topic the wife and I agreed that she should move to the student sub as she's studying and kick me off Spotify entirely. I've got until the EOM to get plexamp / something else self hosted. Interested to see what comes from this post as it's pretty relevant for me right now.
Admittedly I could Bluetooth to my head unit in my car and stream Grayjay music to it, but that's just leaning on an unfree service.
I love the idea of Jellyfin, but since I host for my extended family, and it has to be wife approved (re: easy) plex is the answer. If you already have a plex pass it’s annoying brainer. If you don’t, weigh the pros and cons because there are cons.
Spool up an instance of Plex, and install PlexAmp. Put a handful of your favorite albums on it, see if you like the features and the interface.
Yer I host Plex for 10+ folks and it's an easy send. Really wish I could pipe it through CloudFlare but not willing to risk it currently.
I'll give plexamp a go, man my tastes are all over the shop so it will be an album dump (that I should have done years ago) spinning up some old cds and the external dvd drive 😂
The other “issue” isn’t an issue at all. Plex handles all that stuff just fine and super easily.
There definitely can be profiles. You can either create fully new users (with their own logins, etc) or home users. Assign them restrictions as necessary. Of course this is all done in the plex web app, but user switching is done easily in PlexAmp.