Starting with this post:
https://sh.itjust.works/post/44999037
Continues here:
https://sh.itjust.works/post/45035437
More posts discussing the fallout:
Dbzer0 admin claiming Uyghur genocide is 'overblown and misrepresented'
Dbzer0 admin casually defending Uyghur genocide denial because "libs worse", yikes
Banned from meanwhileongrad for "No db0 allowed".
Removed false allegations against goat from a post on db0
Another anarchist ~~tankie~~ did a write-up of the situation
More links: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/52444570
https://sh.itjust.works/comment/329886
I dont see how unruffled is denying anything there merely pointing out that starving a entire population to death is on a different level to (still wrong keep in mind) more gradual chipping away of culture. And no frankly I dont need cherry picked "examples", the prevailing attitude on /0 is against denials of those events and taking a anti tankie stance.
And again neolib "democracy" is a bad joke most parties of Wiemar at that time were milquetoast 'social democrats' right wing nationalists & conservatives or even more milquetoast liberals. And that particular experiment in neolib statecraft ended in the Nazis taking power and killing millions.
"More gradual chipping away of culture" being mass sterilization, concentration camps, forced labor, suppression of Uyghur language, the destruction of cultural artifacts, literal settler colonialism, kidnapping children to place with Han families...
Very gradual, much chipping away, wow.
You also don't see how claiming that the Uyghur genocide (and putting genocide in quotes, implying that it's not a 'real' genocide, for that fucking matter) is overblown and exaggerated is denying anything?
Ah yes, the fact that they're highly upvoted anywhere outside of dbzer0's tankiejerk - including on flippanarchy and leftie memes - is completely irrelevant. None of the examples or evidence matters, only your feelings matter.
I'm sorry, did you not read what I wrote?
What part of the post-WW1 German elections, in a state which had not formed anything more than borders and a proposal for elections, whose electoral design was similar to the contemporary post-revolutionary Russian elections which ushered in a 90% socialist legislature, 'neolib'?
This is just going around in circles, China isnt causing mass starvation nor flattening nearly every building in Turkistan its still bad what is happening but practically which one can we sooner do something about and what is the most imminent risk to a population outright carpet bombing, shootings and starvation or a shitty tankiestate using authoritarian measures to hack away at a culture quite slowly while at the same time investing in some infrastructure and public services in the region.
Again I dont see how unruffled was denying that China was doing shit, you're grasping at straws.
And I simply dont see tankie campist related shit mass upvoted on /0 coms it doesn't happen, maybe you're confusing something that tankies & anarchists can agree on and is somewhat popular in both circles as a tankie concept.
And no the early Wismar legislature was not 90% socialist, if you're being generous and assume the SPD was genuinely left wing (not really IMO, was still beholden to capital interests) then at most it was about 45% "left" wing.
Zentrum, DNVP, DDP etc all had a signficiant chunk (conservatives, right wing nationalists & milquetoast liberals).
Okay? That's no reason to fucking deny or downplay it.
My previous comparison:
Upvoted pro-genocide comments on a single recent Dbzer0 thread:
Downvoted anti-genocide comments on a recent Dbzer0 thread:
(note also the upvoted comparison of Uyghur genocide to white genocide conspiracy theories)
Genocide denial left up:
Upvoted denial of UN-verified sexual assault:
I can wade into Flippanarchy and get you plenty of examples from there too, if you like.
I'm referring to the elected Russian government that the Bolsheviks overthrew - the Bolshevik overthrow being what the Spartacist Uprising explicitly sought to imitate.
Again I dont see unruffled denying it nor downplaying it.
Also nice cherrypicked screenshots lmao, im done you refuse to engage in anythng resambling good faith.
So if I said "Claims of Palestinian 'genocide' are mostly overblown and misrepresented by the left", and note 'genocide' in quotes, something which anyone with any decency in their body would recoil from, you, on the other hand, would regard that as neither a denial nor downplaying?
They're cherrypicked screenshots because... I demonstrated exactly what you said didn't happen on dbzer0?
Yes they are cherry picked, very rarely does that happen it simply doesn't happen en masse. Note how the tankie had a heap of downvotes along with upvotes & frankly a single comment with two.upvotes is really stretching the "/0 is tankie hurr durr" narrative you've concocted in your head.
So how many more examples do you want?
Oh, what am I saying? No number of examples would be enough.
Oh, it's fine to have a majority in favor of tankie positions, as long as there are some dissenters along with it. I guess the Holodomor denial with one downvote is okay too.
I specifically noted that one not as upvoted, but as genocide denial left up by the admins. Sorry that you didn't read what I posted?
Extremely weak examples on a com thats often visited by other instances... this is now coming across as pure seethe from you. They're still getting challenged and often made to look like clowns, and you are 100% cherry picking with the given examples when looking at the entire /0 instances attitudes and views strongly oppose tankie rethoric.
And im partially skim reading because I have a job and am getting ready to go to it, my apologies I dont have all day to sit around stirring drama and posting on a federated version of reddit.
They're literally not getting challenged, unless one downvote and no responses from dbzer0 users is 'getting challenged and often made to look like clowns'.
So if I go to Flippanarchy and give you the same kind of shite, will you cede the point?
https://sh.itjust.works/post/45124493 Nope I will not "cede the point" even when goat was trying to start shit via posting about the CCP crackdowns note how the vast majority of /0 agreed with the post.
Anyways I need to go to work and I've had my fill of your condecending smugness for today.
As suspected, no amount of evidence matters. Only feels matter.