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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Doesn't take much, barrier to entry is super low in most of Europe.

Have to get a gp/psychiatrist to clear you if you've no history, or if you do, likes having multiple offenses for fighting, you can forget about legal guns. And those are rifles. Unless you got a very good reason, you're not getting a hand gun. You wont get one for "self-defense", certainly.

Illegal ones are at least 10x the price they are in the stores, and there's really not much of a market. It mostly consists of like starter pistols drilled to a .22. Not exactly a huge issue, some single shot .22 which costs you 600€ if you can find one.

When looking at the US, it doesn't seem far from those gun vending machines in Cyberpunk2077.

You can get an semi-auto 7.62 rifle in the US for like 500€.

It's very much a "gun availability" problem.

Most Americans want stricter gunlaws, but the owners of the USA don't seem to agree because it would clash with profits.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Gun laws vary wildly across Europe and you're stating it as if one size fits all.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Well, unless we're gonna pretend like EU isn't a majority of Europe (especially politically), then you'd be only somewhat wrong.

Sure, Russia is technically European and look at their laws, but, eh, we also know in practical terms when talking about European legislation, people generally refer to EU requirements from member states.

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A32021L0555

Here are the ones for guns and yah, they included everything I said. Granted it's technically up to the country to decide whether a prior medical or psychological is required, but the clause states that they have a necessity to make sure the person is fit to have a gun. Essentially it's strongly recommended whether there needs to be a prior test, but idk of any member states which don't?

If you've got serious offences, can't have a gun. Etc etc.

Also establishes that guns need to be marked and those markings need to put in a (centralised or decentralised) database

It is necessary that Member States keep a computerised data-filing system, either centralised or decentralised, which guarantees to authorised authorities access to the data-filing systems in which the necessary information regarding each firearm is recorded. Access by police, judicial and other authorised authorities to the information contained in the computerised data-filing system must be subject to compliance with Article 8 of the European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms.

So yeah. In the EU, there's not a "one size fits all" but there's a "you gonna have this many regulations to get on the ride"