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Anon has a problem with Bioshock (sh.itjust.works)
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[โ€“] Kolanaki@pawb.social 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

I think it's kind of a logical conclusion to science and technology when not constrained by ethics, morality or other regulations aimed at safety as one would find in a Libertarian's wet dream. It might not be superpowered mutants, but more like human experimentation like the Nazis did or nuclear weapons that go boom when you don't want them to because you're being careless about safety.

Also, wasn't the true downfall of the city more because of the power struggle between Atlas and Ryan? There is a whole subplot about the class war happening in the city along with a rebellion, but I haven't played it in so long I don't recall all the details. Ot if that even matters because didnt they turn out to be the same guy just manipulating you? ๐Ÿค”

Fuck. Gonna make me play through Bioshock again.

[โ€“] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 hours ago

Libertarian's wet dream

Please don't conflate Objectivism and Libertarianism. They're different, and Ayn Rand hated Libertarians. Objectivism is all about selfishness (maximize personal benefit), whereas Libertarianism is all about minimizing harm between people (initiation of force, NAP).

Let's use an example of someone creating a dangerous product and someone gets hurt. An Objectivist would say "oops!" whereas the Libertarian would say the seller should be legally liable for damages and criminally liable if they knew about the danger and didn't properly disclose/prevent it, otherwise it's an initiation of force.

Objectivists believe in maximum freedom. Libertarians believe your freedoms end where mine begin. They're different.

[โ€“] GTG3000@programming.dev 13 points 3 days ago

Yup. As Atlas puts it:

These sad saps. They come to Rapture thinking they're gonna be captains of industry, but they all forget that somebody's gotta scrub the toilets.

Ryan likes to talk about "the chain" and being in control, but he also used and discarded his associates and the moment he was no longer in absolute control, he started murdering people and using pheromones to mind-control splicers.

[โ€“] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It might not be superpowered mutants, but more like human experimentation like the Nazis

What do you think the human experimentation's goal was?

[โ€“] Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 points 3 days ago

I mean... I guess it depends which nazi scientist was doing the experiments. One of them had some pretty wild ideas and is where the basis for a lot of the supernatural BS in the Wolfenstein games came from. Forgot his name tho... ๐Ÿค”