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In moments like this we really have to distinguish the difference between ignorance and stupidity. There are a lot of people that voted for Trump because they are legitimately stupid and believe everything he says without question. But there is another group that, for one reason or another, fell for the grift a second time out of ignorance and genuinely believed he would "drain the swamp." I understand the immediate desire to say things like "you get what you voted for," but that aggressive stance is exactly why so many people flocked to Trump in the first place. Calling them stupid and making fun of them is exactly why they flocked to the side that made them feel "special." Because just like every cult, they convince the ignorant, angry, and confused people to join them by making them feel vilified and righteous.
I'm not saying don't be angry with them. Your anger is justified and it is cathartic to say "I told you so," but we should direct our anger towards the cult leader not the victims of the cult. A lot of these people were just angry at all the same things we are angry about. Trump used it as an opportunity to scoop them up into his cause and promise them the world to just take advantage of them (he is a rapist, afterall). I'm sure almost everyone that joins a cult has said at some point they'd never be dumb enough to join a cult.
It takes willfull ignorance by a stupid person to not know he is a rambling piece of shit at this point. These people are fucking stupid and we can shit on them all they want because it isn't like being nice would change their mind when they are so disconnected from reality.
Have you ever talked to people that were in a cult before or seen interviews? You'd be surprised how far things can go before they start to wake up to what's really going on, especially those that were indoctrinated from a young age. You're asking people to change their entire outlook on reality along with their beliefs and opinions and then call them stupid without getting it on the first try. No matter who's right or wrong, If someone was trying to do that to you would you not get immediately pissed off and try to avoid them as much as possible?
I think we're beyond the first try at this point. It's been 10 years.
Like I said,
They need to be scolded and told they are doing the wrong things. That is the only way they could possibly learn, which they won't because if they weren't stupid they would have caught on to the fact that they are supporting awful stuff.
But at least I get to vent and maybe somebody ignorant about the details will catch on.
You're only nice to people to change their mind?
I'm nice to everyone unless I find out they are a piece of shit. Voting for Trump's second term and/or supporting him after everything he has done makes someone a piece of shit.
If they change their mind and start opposing Trump they stop being an active piece of shit and can work towards repairing the damage they did. As long as they aren't actively being a piece of shit I'm fine being nice.
In moments like this we really have to decide if this is a doomer community or not.