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Are private email providers worth it? (lemmy.zip)

submitted 1 week ago by notarobot@lemmy.zip to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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I think I know the answer, bit maybe I'm missing something

Since proton only sends and receives encrypted emails to other proton accounts, that means that when you get or send an email to someone else, they have to send / receive unencrypted and there is no way for us to verify what they are doing. Right?

Also if most accounts are google Microsoft, they still get 90% of my emails. By switching to proton I think I've gained nothing, while losing convenience , added another trust point, and having two different companies have my data instead of just one

Proton drive, calendar and VPN I think are fine

Sorry for the poor syntax. I'm at work working on email related things, and this topic kept distracting me. I might correct it later

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[–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

the thing with proton is you don't really know that they're private and they pretty much always collaborate with the police and their android vpn app collects some data that it doesn't need to. I would suggest you:

don't use email, that's the ideal solution
use a provider like cock.li and send messages encrypted with pgp. this isn't ideal, pgp leaks a lot of data and cock.li gets sinkholed by most email providers.
use proton and encrypt emails with pgp, you have not much privacy but it's less worse than microsoft and not much convenience loss, except that proton doesn't allow email clients(at least if you don't pay), I don't know about ms).

[–] notarobot@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don't know how old are you or where you live, but for everyone I know it's non optional. My government requires an email. And for any site I want to use I require an email. Even Lemmy.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Privacy is multiplayer. When the government needs it, we must do more to spread these ideas.

[–] notarobot@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

I don't understand what you are trying to say

[–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

that's why I said 'ideal'...

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

they pretty much always collaborate with the police

a corporation is a legal extension of the state, hence why all of them will always collaborate when ordered by the courts or otherwise required by law.

some will even collaborate when they are not required by law such amazon ring providing pigs access for no reason, facebook censoring content per request of US or Israel... needless bullshit but hey it helps get government contracts ;)

bottom line, expecting corpo to do anything for you for 5 bucks a month is naive, at best they should not do it for no reason and they should not sell your data.

but even that is a tall order for these parasites.

[–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

yeah, the solution is to use a provider which is not a company.