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I've been wondering about how well a lot of American states could function if they where fully independent states. I'm not thinking every state would be it's own country but states banding together and becoming there own countries. An example of this California, Oregon, and Washington.

I'm thinking that kind of like the Fediverse it is easier to manage and do more the people on a smaller scale.

What do others think of this?

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[โ€“] Sunsofold 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

There's the concept from Nine Nations of America and various similar concepts looking at how the boundaries shown on maps do not necessarily reflect the demographic reality. I've wondered for years about the possibility of a sort of 'hyper-federalism,' taking the idea of federalism (having a local 'state' government and a national 'federal' government) a bit further, empowering not just towns to have councils but neighborhoods, and nesting the local within the broader form. (e.g. X voters and their living space form a 'district.' Representatives from X districts form a 'locale.' Representatives from X locales form a 'region.' etc.) It's obviously just my random thought but I wonder sometimes if it could be developed into something usable.

[โ€“] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

i fully agree with this. the main reason why trump can mess with the people like this is because the people have no power over their own region. if trump wants to, he can just declare that it is now illegal to drive black-painted cars in the neighbourhood of chicago or grow strawberries in your own garden. the only way to prevent such shenanigans is if people have power over their own territory.

[โ€“] Sunsofold 3 points 4 days ago

To be precise, the element giving Trump and his people the ability to do the things they do seems to be simply that they do them without consideration. You can do a lot if you don't worry about the repercussions or consequences.