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As Signal get your phone number. Can we considerate this application as private ? What's your thoughts about it ? I'm also using SimpleX, ElementX, Threema, but not much people using it...

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[–] artyom@piefed.social 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You're equating giving my Mom my phone number with broadcasting my phone number on the Threadiverse?

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Signal is a US-based entity subject to warrantless NSLs, with all the data hosted on AWS. Its not giving your phone number to your mom. Its giving your phone number to amazon and most likely a US surveillance government agency.

For a threat model you should assume the worst and never trust any US-domiciled data service or platform.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The government already has every US citizens number anyways.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So just give up and use signal then?

You're not going to convince me to use US-domiciled services.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

Then just say you don't like the US, no reason to make up some bullshit about NSLs and AWS and phone numbers.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Its giving your phone number to amazon and most likely a US surveillance government agency

Do you really think they don't already have my/your phone #?

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Since I don't use comms platforms they have jurisdiction over, I lessen the risk.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

Lessen the risk of...finding out your phone #?