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What are your opinions on anti-natalism? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 day ago by nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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Anti-natalism is the philosophical value judgment that procreation is unethical or unjustifiable. Antinatalists thus argue that humans should abstain from making children. Some antinatalists consider coming into existence to always be a serious harm. Their views are not necessarily limited only to humans but may encompass all sentient creatures, arguing that coming into existence is a serious harm for sentient beings in general. There are various reasons why antinatalists believe human reproduction is problematic. The most common arguments for antinatalism include that life entails inevitable suffering, death is inevitable, and humans are born without their consent. Additionally, although some people may turn out to be happy, this is not guaranteed, so to procreate is to gamble with another person's suffering. WIKIPEDIA

If you think, maybe for a few years, like 10-20 years, no one should make babies, and when things get better, we can continue, then you are not an anti-natalist. Anti-natalists believe that suffering will always be there and no one should be born EVER.

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[–] Onyxonblack@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm a Misanthropic Anti-Natalist. I hate humankind. I also hate life in all its forms. Life is simply a universal byproduct of the thermodynamic process of Entropy. It's nothing special or sacred. I don't even like the sound of human voices, of any sort. Only music with no vocals. We are nightmare creatures; evil apes. I don't value capitalism or materialist possessions. I want to die. I am still here because there are people who care about me still alive.

So yeah, fuck this existence. We humans are a cancerous plastic-creating poison upon this planet. Hopeless and pathetic.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

So, I've gotta ask: Why don't you just end the one life you can, since you hate all life? I mean, it sounds rather... illogical for you to type all that out, to tell other life what your thoughts are, since you hate all life anyways?

Why not go be a hermit then? Get away from all other humans, and just exist by yourself?

If you're talking to people here, it means you enjoy your own life, and want to communicate your thoughts to other lives, so they can understand what you're feelings are. Which means, at some level, you value life.