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What are your opinions on anti-natalism? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 day ago by nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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Anti-natalism is the philosophical value judgment that procreation is unethical or unjustifiable. Antinatalists thus argue that humans should abstain from making children. Some antinatalists consider coming into existence to always be a serious harm. Their views are not necessarily limited only to humans but may encompass all sentient creatures, arguing that coming into existence is a serious harm for sentient beings in general. There are various reasons why antinatalists believe human reproduction is problematic. The most common arguments for antinatalism include that life entails inevitable suffering, death is inevitable, and humans are born without their consent. Additionally, although some people may turn out to be happy, this is not guaranteed, so to procreate is to gamble with another person's suffering. WIKIPEDIA

If you think, maybe for a few years, like 10-20 years, no one should make babies, and when things get better, we can continue, then you are not an anti-natalist. Anti-natalists believe that suffering will always be there and no one should be born EVER.

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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That is the long term future of humans

I agree with some of this,

once we shed the idiotic shackles of mythology and inbred conservatism.

but it should be noted that spaceflight is becoming kind of a modern mythology that describes the "fate" of humans.

I think you got some nice ideas but you really gotta work on your messaging. As it is, it's one big blob of text, and that's hard to read and parse through. It would be better if you can summarize your points in maybe 1-3 short bullet points, something like:

Asteroids provide lots of rare earth minerals, and by exploiting this, the economy can continue to grow.
We need to master technology to be the first in space and provide settlements in outer space.

This will make it much easier for other people to parse your points and comprehend them quickly.

Also you gotta be realistic and realize what's at stake. If spaceflight takes up pace slower than you think, i.e. it takes 10 years longer for humans to set foot on another planet, that is already an economic crisis for the people alive today and needs to be tackled. Reducing the number of workers in a country is a way to reduce unemployment rate and it is simply important to realize how serious the situation is and how urgent it is to get this right. We can still do spaceflight by the way.