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The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"We predescribed our methodology in enough advance detail for Polymarket to run a real-money prediction market, and traders trusted us enough for the market to be liquid" would be overwhelmingly more credible than "we published our results in a big-name science journal".

https://xcancel.com/ESYudkowsky/status/1933973423472164955

[–] scruiser@awful.systems 3 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Every tweet in that thread is sneerable. Either from failing to understand the current scientific process, vastly overestimating how easily cutting edge can be turned into cleanly resolvable predictions, or assuming prediction markets are magic.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 1 points 12 hours ago

assuming prediction markets are magic

Bet it's more like assuming it will incentivize people with magical predicting genes to reproduce more so we can get a kwisatz haderach to fight AI down the line.

It's always dumber than expected.

[–] istewart@awful.systems 3 points 20 hours ago

Pretty easy to look at actually-existing instances and note just how laughable "traders trusted us enough for the market to be liquid” is.

This is just another data point begging what I believe to be the most important question an American can ask themselves right now: why be a sucker?

[–] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So Hanson is dissing one of the few movements that supports his pet contrarian policy? After the Defence Department lost interest the only people who like prediction markets seem to be LessWrongers / EAs / tech libertarians / crypto bros / worshippers of Friend Computer.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 1 points 11 hours ago

the only people who like prediction markets [..]

Apparently Donald Trump Jr. has found his way into the payroll of a couple of the bigger prediction markets, so they seem to be doing their darndest to change that.