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I believe all of the people sent to CECOT have now been released, right? It seems like that specific tactic was proving too blatantly illegal and unpopular for them to keep going with.
I wasn't talking about CECOT exclusively. The Gulag was a whole nationwide archipelago of various small-scale detention facilities, which parallels what Trump is doing more or less to a T.
I don’t think it’s really fair to call immigration dentention facilities in the US gulags quite yet. They are abhorrent but they’re still subject to oversight and generally people are held there temporarily. So while there are certainly human rights violations, I can understand why someone might hope they can wait until an improvement in the political situation if they are settled here.
https://www.inmateaid.com/information/inside-the-world-of-ice-detention-centers-what-happens-after-an-immigration-arrest
https://wearemitu.com/wearemitu/news/alligator-alcatraz-migrant-detention-conditions/
Human rights abuses, abhorrent, etc. but gulags were only one step above death camps. They killed millions of people. We aren’t seeing that level of violence and cruelty yet.
But I mean I hear you, we’re not too far from that it seems.
I think you are being victim of the boiling frog effect.
Do you want to be pedantic and wait until the mass graves are discovered years after thebfact? Or do you see the escalating signs that they are going exactly in that direction?
Right now they are already disappearing people. They are already following the totalitarian regime playbook and history has shown exactly where it leads to.
By the way, remove the wool over your eyes, it's not like the US doesn't know the totalitarian regime playbook. They've used it many times in other countries to install puppet governments. The only difference is that they are doing it now at home.
Yeah. I mean it's not a competition. They can both be horrifying things that need to be stopped.
I agree but I’m saying this is precisely the difference—people don’t feel they have nothing left to lose, and the available evidence supports that position. If we get to that point I hope people will read this passage and take it to heart.
People shouldn't wait to get to that point when all the historical signs point in that direction.