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Maybe I'm just out of touch, but I don't understand who this is for, and I think it's going to flop.

First of all...who is asking for thinner phones?

Secondly, the price. This is not an Air SE. This thing is only $100 less than a full-fat iPhone Pro, and $200 more than iPhone base (which is a particularly good value this year).

And what do you get for that price?

  • 2 fewer lenses than the pro, and 1 fewer than the base
  • Titanium frame, I guess?
  • Less powerful processor than the base
  • Inherently more fragile frame
  • Less battery life than even the base model (this was often cited as the shortcoming of the iphone Mini)
  • Slower charging speed than both models
  • no cinematic video mode

Are people really clamoring for thinner phones so badly that they'll spend more money for less features?

https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?modelList=iphone-17-pro%2Ciphone-air%2Ciphone-17

Edit: 1 week later and the Air underperforms the base model as well (as expected)

Also someone pointed out below that the 16e is only 2 grams heavier and is $400 cheaper.

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[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Air does not have a less powerful processor compared to the base.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's the same processor as the Pro but it doesn't have the vapor chamber or aluminum chassis, and it has less thermal mass, which will inevitably cause thermal throttling and decreased performance.

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And technically one fewer GPU core than the Pro phones. But you said compared to the base; while you’re right that the Air won’t match the Pro (owing in part to thermals), it’s not going to underperform the base 17.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

it’s not going to underperform the base 17

It did.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

it’s not going to underperform the base 17

Disagree. Why wouldn't it? They put a more powerful processor and then removed more of its capacity to dissipate heat.

Can't say anything for certain but it sure seems unlikely.