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[–] Mac@mander.xyz 29 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Everyone says to punch Nazis but then a Nazi gets punched and it's all "i dont condone violence 😒".

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nazis are never murdered. They simply die of natural causes.

[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Lead poisoning is an epidemic amongst facist populations. And since the FDA is anti vaccination I’m betting it’s going to make a comeback

[–] b_rain@troet.cafe 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)
[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Hey man, you laugh but in the 60s we may or may not have tested that out while really high on LSD

[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I personally condone violence against Nazis

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thank you for your input CIA_chatbot.

[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

You’re welcome, as a member of the CIA I have a large list of groups I condone violence against. Nazis are just one of the few groups that actually deserve it

It really do be like that.

[–] Suspiciousbrowsing@kbin.melroy.org -1 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Yeah but punching a Nazi doesn't stop more Nazi's.. violence is a shit way to deal with the severe health and cultural issues that you have in America

[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

History proves otherwise

[–] Noite_Etion@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So how do you stop Nazis then?

[–] khornechips@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago

Just give them everything they want and they’ll learn their lesson.

[–] Suspiciousbrowsing@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You need to address culturally why there is a resurgence. It probably would also help to ban the ability of hate groups to congregate / show their symbols etc

[–] Noite_Etion@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You need to address culturally why there is a resurgence.

Trump needs addressing, what do you suggest?

It probably would also help to ban the ability of hate groups to congregate / show their symbols etc.

Understand where you are coming from here, but this goes against free speech. If you give authorities this ability they will abuse it. What if they claim supporting Palestine makes you part of a hate group?

[–] Suspiciousbrowsing@kbin.melroy.org 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Trump was democratically elected TWICE. He is a symptom of the dysfunction in American, not the only cause of it.

Often the 1st and second amendments are screeched out at the heavens of needing to be protected. Look where that's currently got america, thinking that killing someone is justified.. what about Charlie's right to free speech?

Im not suggesting there is an easy or quick fix. I'm suggesting resorting to killing people you disagree with is a quick fire way to fuel and increase extremism

[–] Noite_Etion@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Trump was democratically elected TWICE. He is a symptom of the dysfunction in American, not the only cause of it.

There is never a singular cause, and there is never a single solution I agree.

Often the 1st and second amendments are screeched out at the heavens of needing to be protected. Look where that's currently got america, thinking that killing someone is justified.. what about Charlie's right to free speech?

You wanted to ban certain groups you define as hate groups/symbols, my counterpoint to that is where do you draw the line, what exactly constitutes a hate group?

Freedom of speech allows people to say some horrible shit true, but do you wanna spend the rest of time arguing where the line should be drawn. What absolute definition exists here that covers all hate groups and reduces extremism, without taking away rights from the average person. I personally don't think such a solution exists which is why I support freedom of speech.

Im not suggesting there is an easy or quick fix. I'm suggesting resorting to killing people you disagree with is a quick fire way to fuel and increase extremism

It's very easy to make this point when you cannot provide a solution. Sitting on the fence and telling everyone what is wrong doesn't fix anything IMO. I don't disagree with your notion, he didn't deserve to be shot in front of the world like that, no one does... But demanding we ban hate groups without considering how we do that isn't helpful either, neither is pointing out its wrong to shoot people, we already know this.

If you can provide a solution that prevents all of this I'm happy to talk about it.

[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

World war 2 would beg to differ

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So we should let Nazis who platform violence and hate just do their thing and continue to recruit our children?

[–] Suspiciousbrowsing@kbin.melroy.org 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There's obviously a clear difference between assassinating someone or just saying "well I guess we'll just let them do their thing". If they perform violence, you have your justice system. You need to address the cause of why people are being recruited.. and obviously stop the recruitment. Just killing people is not the answer

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 4 points 1 week ago

So we should report the Nazi to the other Nazis and await them to be held accountable?