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Fuck all this "let's not celebrate the gruesome murder of a political opponent" bullshit, the man was a stochastic terrorist. Let's dunk on the douchebag and piss on his grave together. I hope more fascists like him get it through the neck

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Assuming we're talking about genuine empathy rather than performative fake empathy:

  • He did not live his life in terror, so there is no suffering to empathise with there. In fact empathy tells me he was a self-centered selfish asshole of the worst kind, emotions I can feel through empathy but not which I generally had by myself (though I have been thus once or twice and nowadays regret it).
  • He seemed to have died quickly, painlessly and probably without even knowing what happenned to him. If that was so, there was no actual suffering to empathise with there - we went to sleep confused in seconds from blood loss and never woke up.
  • Dead people have no feelings so there is nothing to empathise with in a corpse: empathy with a corpse is only really about empathy with how the live human felt when dying.

Somebody living in poverty will suffer a lot more in a week than this guy did his whole life, including when he died and after his dead he was beyond all suffering.

The only people in this whom my heart goes to are his family, and I bet at least his children are better off since the guy was a Psychopath or Sociopath so I'm actually thorn between feeling pain for them and actually being happy for them - it really depends what kind of dad he was and my expectation isn't that he was a good one. Similary for his wife.

Also he was wealthy, obtained through ill means and spreading suffering. His wife and children will be well cared for and will want for nothing.

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Fair point. I'm more concerned with people celebrating this like it's some victory when in reality, such reactions only okay the same thing to be done to leftist commentators

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 13 points 1 week ago

The same thing has been happening to left leaning people in the USA for decades, arguably more.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I suppose such reactions are the product of this kind of thing happening to this kind of person feeling a lot like Karma, or Natural Justice, especially when the Legal kind of Justice isn't actually Just, not even close.

I suspect people would celebrate this a lot less if they felt that Legal Justice worked and equally made people accountable for their actions.

This guy has been instrumental in indirectly making a lot of people suffer, in some cases to quite extreme levels, so the glee of many when he paid the ultimate price for it is understandable.

True, Empathy has nothing to do with such reactions.

[–] insaneinthemembrane@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Empathy for the people he's left behind. He's dead, it's not for him.

[–] HarryOru@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why should I feel any empathy for whoever raised or willingly married this formerly-breathing POS? I think my empathy is way better spent on the people he continuously discriminated, victimized and oppressed.

As a father, he was advocating for a world where school shootings are a normal, and according to him necessary, occurrence. He believed children as young as 12 should be made to watch public executions. He defended and supported pedophiles. If have any empathy for his children it isn't because he died, but because they had him as a father in the first place.

[–] insaneinthemembrane@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Didn't know you had a limited supply.

I feel empathy for people who are suffering and that likely includes the family of this guy.

[–] HarryOru@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

Didn't know you had a limited supply.

It's not a matter of having a limited supply. Quite simply I cannot feel any empathy for people who caused their own suffering as a consequence of causing the suffering of millions of others. Anyone who supported and surrounded Charlie Kirk enabled him and most likely shared his opinions, which is just as awful as his direct actions. They fostered the climate that took him away from them. Crocodile tears, FAFO, leopards eating faces, call it whatever you like.