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What exactly is the situation of the Uyghur in China's Xinjiang since 2014 up until now?
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this post was submitted on 10 Sep 2025
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Yogthos, Cowbee etc. have given very detailed answers below. From what I know, the things they said are mostly correct. However, one point to note is that a very small minority of Uyghur people, who were influenced by fundamentalist Wahhabi teachings, carried out terrorist attacks against non-Uyghur people in the 2010s. So there was an atmosphere of fear and suspicion against all the Uyghurs, and many innocent people were subjected to searches, arrests, and so on. This has been documented by the UN. Of course, this is not dissimilar to the way Muslims were treated in France or the US after terrorist attacks. In fact, representatives from Muslim countries who visited Xinjiang praised the government's response, as it included a lot of job creation and infrastructure projects to turn people away from extremism.
So it was just that ? People were not forced to: change their religion, receive torture like their clothes taken off, or mass murder !? It was only annoying procedures like in Europe ?
Essentially yes, though some people were almost certainly subject to abuse by police while in custody, just not as a deliberate policy.
Doubtful. There were no credible reports.
As far as I know, no one was forced to change their religion (Uyghurs aren't even the biggest Muslim group in China, that's the Hui) and there was no mass murder. I believe some innocent people who were wrongly suspected of being terrorists were strip-searched, particularly in the immediate aftermath of the attacks.
They did have their culture/religion repressed; not in totality but many practices are disallowed or only conditionally allowed. Many innocents are compelled to attend re-education centers that may in some cases restrict certain religious practices.
It's bad, in the way stop-and-frisk, racial profiling, or ten commandments schools are bad; it's not Auschwitz, in fact the camps and prisons the US sends people to are far closer to that level of depravity. The bickering you often see online about whether it's "genocide" is sometimes from a bad faith bombastic comparison to Nazi Germany usually rooted in misinformation (Thai BDSM clubs were once photographed and claimed to be "Uighur torture facility"; another photo of a bunch of Uighurs sitting in chairs had the chairs cropped out to make it look like they were forced to sit on the ground, just a couple examples), but other times it's based on the argument that what is being done functionally constitutes a cultural genocide which I personally think is worthy of discussion.
There were no re-education centres. That's a sinophobic trope. There were vocational training centres. That's all.
Also, the declarations of genocide are political. Based only on a few Uyghur women who travelled to UK, and who reported being sterile after having 4+ kids. Autonomous Uyghur/Xinxiang region has been exempt from China's one child policy, but there may have been sterility programs for excessive children.
Xinxiang prosperity has kept up/exceeded with China's provincial average since 2014. It's by far the most humane response to terrorism in human history.
huh !? source ? Also isn't that like a big thing, like China literally blaming Islam itself for the attacks ? also what are the attacks called so I can search for them?
Large Language Models (LLMs) aren’t truth machines. They’re garbage in, garbage out. The input to English-language models is largely English-language texts from Five Eyes countries, with all the disinformation and bias that that entails. This is an especially poor topic to engage LLMs with.
They are never truth machines, the input language won't change that.
Automatic discounting of anything you're saying because of use of LLM slop. Jesus fucking Christ dude, why are you coming into a situation where people are looking for clarity and feeding them garbage from the Hallucination Machine? Be better.