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Fediverse vs Disinformation

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Pointing out, debunking, and spreading awareness about state- and company-sponsored astroturfing on Lemmy and elsewhere. This includes social media manipulation, propaganda, and disinformation campaigns, among others.

Propaganda and disinformation are a big problem on the internet, and the Fediverse is no exception.

What's the difference between misinformation and disinformation? The inadvertent spread of false information is misinformation. Disinformation is the intentional spread of falsehoods.

By equipping yourself with knowledge of current disinformation campaigns by state actors, corporations and their cheerleaders, you will be better able to identify, report and (hopefully) remove content matching known disinformation campaigns.


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Same as instance rules, plus:

  1. No disinformation
  2. Posts must be relevant to the topic of astroturfing, propaganda and/or disinformation

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[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 71 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Those bots have been so successful the past few years that if they shut them all down tomorrow, it wouldn't matter because they managed to radicalize enough idiots to keep it going.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 57 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They've actually studied this and found it not to be true. I'll look for the study later, but it said that if you cut off access to Fox News and Facebook, people get less racist and wanting to do harm.

[–] Neverclear@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Do they really? Or are they just less emboldened to verbalize their bigotry?

[–] Redfox8@mander.xyz 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I suspect a surprising percentage of people just follow the crowd. No effort required to formulate any bigotry or predudice or whatever, just copy others and you're part of the gang. If there's nothing to copy they just shrink out of view.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

If you stop exciting them they return to a low energy state

[–] arsCynic@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If one stops drinking alcohol, one stops being drunk.

I think people in groups acclimatize to the vibe of their surroundings and verbalize things in a nudged way to land well within the group. So if the group is toxic, the nudge will be toxic.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Seem the same studies. Google "if you cut off access to Fox News and Facebook, people get less racist and wanting to do harm"

There are plenty of reputable resources to investigate.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago

well actually, it actually stops thier momentum. case in point on reddit, when they were actually clean sweeping all the propaganda bot, the site remained extremely quiet for a few days of any astroturfing or "both sides" bs. yea it doesnt stop the violence, they just lose steam really quickly. the Right constantly need something to poke them into action.