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What really must be done is to bring forward serious discussion and not debate through memes
Of course rational argument should be the starting point, and if you kept up, there have been and still are plenty of efforts to discuss. But, in the words of Karl Popper, who watched fascism overwhelm all reason:
That's where we're at now: When the intolerant refuse to play by the same rules of rational argumentation, no rational argument can hope to change their mind.
In a serious thread perhaps you wouldn't limit yourself to a quote but we are talking below a meme
Or we just make plans to start beating fascists to death in the streets
It's been done, got nowhere
Do you see how poorly our conversation is set up right now? We are talking below a meme hinting at something and not really bringing up any discussion
I don't disagree with you. This is a terrible method to conduct political discourse. But of all the times I have discussed things with right wingers, I have only ever left the conversation stupider, and more angry. They simply don't listen.
Right wingers are fundamentally motivated by a firm belief that they are innately superior to everyone else. People of other races, religions, genders, sexual minorities, etc. are beneath them. This is all they really believe; the rest is just sophistry.
I'm not really hinting at anything, peaceful discourse has been attempted again and again with the right, they literally don't care and won't listen. It doesn't go anywhere.
before a peaceful or violent discourse you need a discourse to begin with and a meme is a really poor way to start a serious discourse.
I'm clearly speaking of outside this meme, I thought that was obvious
I love how you frame this as being binary. No time for memes, Captain! We must ride at dawn!
You see, memes are destroying the fabric of our reason and debate. It's time to stop laughing and start thinking
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