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They got 4 out of 19 in the first major incursion over Poland. Not a serious flex at all.
If the polish military is to be believed, and there's no real evidence they shouldn't be given where the drones wound up landing, the drones they neutralized were the only ones that posed a significant threat. Sure, big swig from the mug full of salt grains, it was a surprise attack and I doubt they wouldn't have gotten more if they had had the chance. Scrambling an effective defense from a multinational coalition to down selected targets in a fairly large-scale attack like this though? That is a huge flex of NATO's logistical muscle. Arguably the largest one we've seen directly from NATO countries since the initial supply of material to Ukraine.
(K/D isn't even a meaningful stat in a COD game. Why are we applying it to real life?)
Yeah I agree with pretty much everything there and they'll be better prepared next time but if I was Russia I'd be considering it a win. Ukraine deals with 10x that and more nightly.
I'd personally prefer NATO to extend a no fly zone well inside Ukraine with Ukrainian consent and down any Russian drones or missiles that breach it. The cause is there now and it would free up Ukrainian air defence kit in that area to be moved elsewhere. God knows they would benefit from that
I'd sure cheer to see that happen, though I'd be surprised. My speculation on what we'll most likely see is either:
I don't know that I'm right, I'm just some mook on the internet, and if I had to bet I'd say it's much more likely that there needs to be still greater escalation from Russia before we see direct interdiction over Ukraine. But we can hope.
(And if Russia considers this a win, who knows. They're big on their "Just according to keikaku" spins over there, and at this point they're not exactly renowned for their tactical or strategic planning abilities)