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[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 33 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Not just Trump, I don't see anybody on the right even trying to hold themselves to the same standard they demand of the left. There's no good-faith effort whatsoever. They play the victim and demonize the left with every opportunity they get and every time they end up being guilty of what they constantly accuse the left of they flip-flop their stance and promptly move on, only to repeat the same script for the next atrocity their ideology produces.

And yet, time and again the left seems to be either unable to recognize this or unwilling to accept it. They act as if we continue to make concessions then we'll be able to find a common ground, reunite as a nation and return to "normalcy", despite every indication that the right has no interest in cooperation whatsoever, even when it comes to agreeing on objective reality.

[–] Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Fuck the right, we should be demanding better from ourselves. You really want to be like that gaggle of cave brained cunts????

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That gaggle of cave brained cunts seems to be succeeding despite themselves and despite acting against their constituents best interests.

The argument is we need to do something different, need to meet them on the same battlefield. Somehow we need to prevail without degenerating into more of the same

[–] Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They arent succeeding. Social media is fucking with your head. Outside, the real world is just fine. Trumps online influence is barely a whisper.

The way to defeating them, is by giving the voters who never turned up something to vote for. In 2016, everyone was sick of the corrupting in politics. Its almost 10 years later, and its so much worse. The Dems and DNC are part of the problem. Had Bernie got the nom, he would have been Trump easily. Even republicans at the time(not maga) said they wont vote for Bernie. Instead, they gave the voters more corruption with Hilary. And Trump won. They did it again in 2020, when once again Bernie would have won with ease. Instead this time he was told to step aside for Biden. It should be noted that of the 15 or however many candidates it was that were up for the nom, Biden was the only one who didnt have a free healthcare plan. And Biden was the one they all pushed hard to forced everyone else, including making Harris a laughing stock over her plans, in favour of the one guy who would make sure the money continued to flow in the right direction.

People are desperate for change, real change. Not that fake change Trump has been selling. Real change, that opens up a future that is working two or three jobs just to kinda make ends meet. The DNC needs to step up and give the voters that option because the RNC wont. But I dont think the DNC will either. Just last December when AOC was to get a committee seat that would have been a large stepping stone to running in 2028, Nancy Pelosi rallied to make sure she didnt get the seat. The seat instead going to a 75 year old man with cancer who ended up dying 4 months later. Thats what we are faced with here. Corruption on all sides, and even when we have a 35 year old woman in her prime, the old boys network wont get out of the way, because someone like her wouldnt play well with the higher ups in the party or their donors.

Somethings gotta give, and its not gonna be on the RNC side. They are seeing too much support from following the MAGA crowd. So it needs to the dems. And the people need to get the message through, that they want actual change to vote for. Its the only way to win. Becoming just like the people we hate is not winning. Its worse than losing.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Yeah, I'm definitely not advocating for the left to forego all values in pursuit of power like the right has. I'm merely pointing out the fact that elected Democrats seem to think appealing to the right will eventually win them over and I'm trying to highlight why that's a losing strategy. Though I think that's already clear to most people here. I'm just frustrated by watching the same bullshit play out over and over whilst society crumbles around us.