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[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In a similar vein to what is considered "reasonable" in courts, is how it needs to be done yes it can be abused, it already is. If someone said we need to kill all russians, they are all bad and I want everyone to know how they are the cause of all bad things, should we allow that person to continue? We can call them out, and we do, but then they have followers who will inevitably start attacking russians, or perceived russians. That's why it can't be accepted.

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't disagree that it can't be accepted if they are inciting violence, that's already a different classification of speech. If he or anyone else ever openly advocated for violence against anyone they should be shut down and brought up on charges.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And the fun part is, people like kirk lead people to these views points, like stand by and stand down. You need to be able to read between the lines. Kirk talking about abortion being like the Holocaust will incite some of his listeners to action, which starts small with protests and grows into bombing abortion clinics

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's a leap. If you start banning speech based on what might happen if it's interpreted a certain way by extremists, the game is lost.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

It's not a leap, it's exactly what happens, it's why kirk was shot, it's stochastic terrorism.