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[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Holy projection Batman, I said almost none of that

Yeah, they say they have all this evidence on him. As far as I know, it hasn't been submitted to the court...

I don't believe them at their word, and they've been using delay tactics. It's getting close to a year, and the trial is barely progressing.

Yeah these things take time, but if this were an open and shut case, where's the case?

[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

that’s not what projection means.
Projection is when i think you’re doing something Im doing, the accuse you of that. “projecting” my behavior onto you.
like when your girlfriend cheats on you and then starts accusing you of flirting with the waitress the next day….

I’m saying the level of certainty at which you speak on this is unfounded. You can’t be certain of shit right now. You’re not privy to the evidence they have at this point so it doesn’t matter “as far as i know it hasn’t been submitted”.
you could not know.

all i’m really saying is:
if they have they evidence they claim to have, then he will lose on that. No, I don’t trust the pigs and don’t take them at their word.
But i am uncertain as to the outcome because it’s impossible to be, given the information that both of us have available.

but if this were an open and shut case, where's the case?

“justice” moves differently for people with a lot of money. He received a few hundred thousand dollars for legal representation. If you have that kind of money you can delay trial for a long ass time.
They file endless “motions” in court, each new motion must be considered and that takes time… not just for the consideration, but also to get a new court date for that motion.
The defense keeps challenging evidence (for the reasons you listed and others), challenges the location, impartiality of the judge, etc…

BJ Drumpf recently delayed his court dates for 4 whole years until he was reelected and they could be thrown out. Solid cases with tons of evidence.

that’s “where’s the case”.

none of this is simple and straightforward or can be figured out intuitively.

i believe Luigi should be freed on grounds of “self defense” and “defense of others”.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Projection isn't just when you project your ideas on someone else. You're projecting a strawman on me. A set of positions I don't have. I'm not trying to win the argument...I pride myself on turning on a dime when I realize I'm wrong

And the defense isn't delaying, the prosecution is. That's a very important distinction

[–] Klear@quokk.au 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You're projecting a strawman on me.

Did you get chatGPT to come up with that phrase? lmao

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 0 points 5 days ago

Jesus Christ, this is a new low. I don't think humanity is going to make it

[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

you’re just throwing words together and hoping you that’s a thing?
sorry about “projecting a strawman” on you….

jesus christ that’s the dumbest thing i’ve ever read