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To me it is about gaslighting and arguing for the sake of arguing. We've long been in this realm of society now where nobody wants facts or truths, they just want you to be wrong. I have before, cited resources in arguments I've shamefully invested in, knowing that it will not matter in the end. Because I'm still going to be called a liar, I'm still going to be subjected to insults and be baited and gaslit.

And the same people still turn around and expect credible sources to be provided to them? Why ask when you don't care?

It is one thing for someone to make outrageous, blatant and unclaimed arguments than it is another who talks of something and it has a resemblance of truth to it.

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[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Just to give a different perspective than everyone else here but I have asked for sources before when people make claims like the water powered car, and then when they show a source that is a YouTube channels that breaks down to “trust me bro” I will usually reject their source.

I am not saying that’s what you are doing but if a person is criticizing your source, you should at least take a moment to consider “is my source valid”. It’s very common that people do just ask for a source and criticize regardless of validity as a way of wasting your time so don’t take it personally if a person does it

[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This is a good answer. Also people don't tend to change their minds quickly on subjects they feel strongly about, but quality contrary evidence, especially without judgment or moralism, can sow seeds of doubt.

[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

That’s why I at least attempt to provide good sources of information when possible but in the past 10 years I have found less and less people who are interested in conflicting information and just want to live in their own echo chamber. I have found Lemmy is at least better than most forums at least