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Does it even matter that/if this guy wasn't a leftist? The left has been celebrating and condoning the murder -- isn't that what actually counts? (I say this as someone who's mostly leftist, slightly liberal.)
Edit: to be clear, I'm not saying that condoning violence and committing violence are morally equal. I'm saying: we can't simultaneously celebrate and condone the murder and also act like we have the high ground for for not being the party of political violence. That's having the cake and eating it too.
You think the tone of people discussing a murder afterwards is more important than the literal act of murder itself? The fuck are you talking about?
No. Praising a murder doesn't actually count as much as committing one in any reasonable system of ethics or morality.
I'm not claiming that.
What do you expect after years and years of the right being violent and murdering the left? People get sick of being bullied
This seems unrelated to what I was saying. You're talking about what one should expect. Of course I expect political violence.
How is it unrelated?
I was saying that if the left is broadly condoning the murder, then it might as well be the party that murdered Kirk.
And I’m saying that it is conditional. Sucks that we’re here but it’s not surprising. I can’t say agree with your last part. People are also very grey individually so there is no monolith to how someone will react.
Sure, but I feel like it'd be celebrated more if it transpires that the killer is really hard right. Delicious irony.