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Do some people just regurgitate arguments blindly? (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 6 days ago by King_Simp@lemmygrad.ml to c/comradeship@lemmygrad.ml

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I notice this with people talking about capitalism, obviously, but honestly what drove me to make this post is the attempted arguments against veganism. They're basically 95% unoriginal and fail under the most basic of scrutiny.

Take, for example, "not eating the meat won't bring the cow back." Under basically any logical scrutiny, this is a clear double standard to any other purchasing decision in capitalist society, and doesn't really make any sense. But I've seen in so many times over the years, so much so that im planning on becoming a vegan over a period of time. Not because of any arguments vegans make, but because somehow pro-meat eaters are losing a debate to a brick wall, and the conclusions I've made myself have convinced myself that I should be vegan. And I'm really starting to ask, do people just...like...ctrl+c ctrl+v arguments in their head?

I...try to be nice. But...how little respect to your own ability do you have if you do that? Not only to justify something you really don't have to, but something you obviously dont care about. I mean...sorry, it's just baffling to me.

In the words of Kim Kitsuragi from disco elysium, "I dont understand officer...please, help me understand"

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[+] kivork@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

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[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm trying really hard not to say something rude right now. Maybe I need to just step away. Because it is infuriating to see someone try to compare genocide and settler colonialism to factory farming of animals. Like can you just not trivialize an ongoing genocide by comparing it to factory farming. It does the opposite of what you seem to be intending. It makes vegans look ridiculous.

[–] FuckBigTech347@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

it's insane how you're getting hit with downvotes.

[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 5 days ago

I am somewhat lost yeah. If you replace factory farming with all kinds of forms of capitalist exploitation that happen to human beings, people are in my experience usually fine with the kind of position I put forth, but when it's factory farming, it's being compared to genocide.

The ultimate conclusion of the implication that factory farming is anywhere near equivalent to genocide would be that veganism is at best the liberal position and we should be doing everything we can to stop factory farming in its tracks with organization. Maybe I'm just not tuned into vegan ideologues, but that is not something I can recall seeing said much. Mostly what I see in passing is people encouraging veganism and arguing for why, and that is something I made a point of agreeing with because I figured what I was saying might come across as opposing veganism otherwise. But that seems like a very mild stance and way to live as a response to the situation, if the belief is that factory farming is on the level of the worst mass crime human beings can do to one another.