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Airbnb bookings dry up in New York as new short-stay rules are introduced
(www.theguardian.com)
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It's so fucking obnoxious the way people try to make outlier situations as if it invalidates the argument. You know god damn well the situations you're describing are an extremely tiny percentage of airbnb usage (honestly if any at all). Don't be daft.
I like the part where you called me a troll because I didn’t want to DM with you.
Real classy buds.
If they are using Airbnb then they are already a landlord.
Hotels are for short term, houses are for living.
Ah stop, I get the intention but b&b's are a thing and always have been. Wanting to sporadically have a visitor in your retirement shouldn't require becoming a permanent landlord.
People should not be running hotels in residential areas.
If the owners are living in it at the same time, and you're renting out a room, that's hardly a hotel.
The original comment was a basement that they were renting out short term.
I don't see how that matters. A spare room is a spare room whether it's in the basement, the first floor, or the attic.
Where I'm from basement suites are pretty popular. It's a fully contained suite in the house.
What used to be fairly cheap accommodations are now being rented out as hotels and it's causing a lot of housing problems. If it's just a room in a basement that's one thing but it doesn't sound like it is.
Do you understand where I'm coming from now?
I understand that. OP expressly described this basement experience as "renting out spare rooms", though, so I hope you'll understand why I'm treating this as a spare room being rented out.
I live in London and am very familiar with the issue of affordable self-contained accommodation being flipped into overpriced Airbnb units, and I would agree with you that such units should be retained as residential housing.
I still stand by houses are for long-term housing and hotels are for short term rentals.
I enjoy the discourse in conversations like this but I think airbnb is a blight in all forms.
Well on that we are definitely in agreement.
If you look at the comment I replied to, it said they have a full furnished basement that they airbnb out.
I said it should be a house for someone to live in.
I'm not exactly sure where you're getting "should they be compelled to sell part of their lifelong home outright" or "I don’t think any reasonable person would call me a landlord for renting out my apartment for a week while I take a trip" in my comments, it seems you're either inventing something to get mad at or you have a guilty conscience.
Because that's the standard of living? A basement?
Fully furnished? I own a home, my guest room is fully furnished in that it has a bed, desk, side tables, and a TV.
Listen to yourself. Fully furnished doesn't mean the same as configured with separate utilities, a separate entrance, a separate kitchen, or separate bathing facilities.
I'm glad you're housing secure with a guest room, it must be nice.
Some people would kill for a full furnished basement and instead of being rented out short term it could be housing someone instead and leave the short term to hotels.
I really don't understand why this is such a controversial view.
I wouldn't want someone living in my basement full time. I have no obligation to make that basement available to live in wtf kinda bullshit is this.
Uh, no one said that, dude.
Then don't rent it out?
In this specific instance, I suspect it is because there is every indication that the basement room rented by OP was not, in fact, a fully self contained suite within a house, but was a guest room.
How do you physically get into these "basement suites" in your part of the world? When I lived in a townhouse, access to the cellar was via a door in the middle of the property leading off the kitchen. There would be no practical way to split the cellar off from the main property as a separate dwelling. But having guests sleep down there every so often was no big deal.
Some are walk out basements and have their own ground level entry, some are a separate door and other are a door in the middle of shared living space.
Interesting. Here, when conversions happen to make cellars into self-contained units, I'd argue they are frequently only suitable for short term lets, on the basis that no-one should have to live like that. In converting properties whose lower ground floors were never meant to be used for residential purposes into housing, we get stuff like this.
Rental Opportunity of the Week: A Remodelled Crypt, for Goths Your own windowless basement in London Bridge, for just £2,000 a month.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/akz9ze/rental-opportunity-london-bridge-basement
It's brutal but what if you have a choice of that or being homeless?
Now if that's being used as a hotel and your only choice left is to be homeless?
There's so many more problems then just airbnb but it's not helping either.
It goes for £2000 a month ($2500) and is in Zone 1, a 25 minute stroll from the London Stock Exchange. You aren't going homeless if you have £2000 a month to spend on rent, and Zone 2 is one stop away on the Jubilee line. You're moving to Zone 2/3, or moving into a flatshare. Or out of London.
Given the location, pricing and finish I suspect it's more likely to be used as a pied a terre -- a second (weekday) home -- for someone in the City.
Is that a house you live in during the week so you don't have to commute from your primary house?
Correct. Well, not all the work week. One person will sleep in it Monday-Thursday. Maybe Friday if it's a heavy one.
ETA: Rest of the family will be living in a separate house outside the Home Counties where the schools are better.