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The definition of fascism doesn't start when they put on the boots. It doesn't end when they take the boots off. Just because Kirk never killed anyone doesn't mean he isn't complicit in creating a system that would kill lots of people.
You can be both a grifter and a fascist. Especially if you grift for a fascist cause.
You can be call a fascist even if ideologically you're not, but the outcomes you produce are fascistic. This is the category I think Kirk is in.
Would we stop calling Hitler a fascist if we found out that he actually just wanted to be friends with everyone and he didn't actually care about killing all those Jews? He just failed spectacularly.
Sorry about this second thread. It's all my fault. I have answered your question on what I use to determine fascism in the other thread.