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And you want to kick them when they're finally joining your side? How fucking stupid are you?
Who’s kicking them? It’s an internet comment stating how shitty they have been and how little trust they deserve.
Let someone else suck their dick cause they may pay Bernie lip service… vs decades of voting data and the harm their very political participation has caused? You’d have to be stupid to start fawning over them now. Let them prove it then I’ll say cool. They’ve actively proved otherwise throughout my lifetime so this article ain’t moving the needle.
I just literally told you that some of the now reddest states used to be blue and literally instigated insurrections to stick it to the man. Just treat them decently and they will abandon Trump. The fight isn’t over and the democratic party right now is changing. You don’t see it cause nobody reports about it but Bernie is literally talking with ‘the deplorables’ and winning them back on reason and sympathy. That is amazing. And MAGA has nothing to fight that but ignorance and outrage farming.
How far back are you looking? Just at Florida, which was turned red by a sea of geriatrics that doubled the state's population over the past 30 years? Or further than that where the south was governed by Dixiecrats who just turned Republican when the Democratic party stopped being cool with Jim Crow?
I am specifically talking about the coal counties.
How many people arguing with you do you think know about Blair Mountain?
Not many if any.
But that was precisely my initial point.
Oh yea I’m sure they will, just like after Bush crashed the economy… just like after Trump’s first term… just like when my magic fairy?
This is not about a miracle cure for their issues. This is about awareness for who understands their issues. Even the most basic coal worker understands that a politician cannot just swing a wand and fix their issues. But they also understand that not giving tax breaks to billionaires but to them would go a long way.
Totally true, they have shown a historical trend AWAY from awareness… so why should I trust them to be aware now? Even the most basic coal worker has not understood these issues for DECADES FOR FUCKS SAKE. All while voting in republicans to take it worse.
If they want to be different they needed to vote differently BEFORE now. Until then why not assume they will vote the same?
Have you even read what I posted? Have you looked into their history and voting behaviour?
You commit the exact error of dismissal that made them vote red. Bravo.
Yea I personally made them vote red. Thats the issue here… have you read what I said? There are decades of behavior contradicting you…
On top of that are you saying a simple dismissal is what makes folks act that way…? Clearly I guess you think it’s not their fault… it’s my dismissal… the snowflakes… no accountability there…
Simply delete my account and we can have a utopia… Bravo with a fucking mindset thinner than paper…
Defeatist.
Totally, believing you is.
I’m glad you understand that. There’s nothing I’m saying otherwise but you’ve landed yourself into a corner where you have to be a defeatist to even entertain the bullshit you’ve flooded this place with in the mean time.
I suppose you have figured it all out on your own.
Truth be told a lot of people (call it a society?) can figure stuff out that helps a society (call it everyone ?) and do good! Or we can cast doubt and wreck hell and say that anyone calling that a bad thing must “have it all figured out on their own…”
You’re right it’s on my own and totally has nothing to do with the crazy shit you have just been messaging…
Are you serious? I just pointed out that the fascists haven’t won yet and you call that ‘crazy’?
That's ironic.
Where were your kin at the Battle of Blair Mountain? Why’d you let California vote for Reagan? See how unhelpful these criticisms are.
I’m not criticizing the battle of whatever I’m criticizing every vote after the fact.
Why Cali elected Reagan is nothing when you look at California SINCE THEN.
Tell me about Appalachia or Kentucky since then…
I'll be cantankerous... yes.
I live in a red state. My jobs are me the rare left in the entire crowd. I have to learn how to talk, chat, joke with these people. And last Trump administration I kept talking with them. Things I learned. Since I wasn't willing to immediately extol the good of Trump, I must be against him (not even talking politics, just me keeping my mouth shut.) That they're against many of the things on helping people.
But hell, years of working with one crew, I was getting them over, realizing that the wealthy were fucking us over, that the insurance that was fucking everyone over was why we needed better. That many of the "sullied" republicans were against it. Hell I think one thing that got them listening was they said something good about Biden, I couldn't keep my mouth shut and made a snark about Trump and when I was told "I said something good about your guy" I outright tore into them to never say that Biden was "my guy", I may look at lesser of evils but it wasn't some fucking football game.
But I saw chances... I saw hope that maybe... maybe they could learn. But the second Trump started running again, it was the same parroted stuff, even from a soybean ventures guy who was watching to see if his prices would ever go back up because he was losing money on it.
So no... I don't trust them. I think there are some who need to be out there to welcome the people when they're willing to join sides, yes... but there also needs to be those to remind that these are not friends, and they are very likely to stab us in the back unless they actually show that they're willing to put the work in to make change.
The thing with those types is that they hate black people and LGBT folk much more than they believe in anything the Bern is saying