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Am I witnessing democracy right now ? Wow it's like people collectively decide about key topics, amazing. Go Switzerland !
It's not real democracy as the government motivate people to vote yes or no, and the government is completely corrupted. But yeah, it looks close to a democracy
Who is "the government" in Switzerland exactly? I see people in favour and against it in "the government" of Switzerland. Or is "the government" just the politicians that disagree with you?
I meant the politicians:)
You're just spoiled.
Switzerland is the only country that I know has direct democracy. The others have indirect democracies where you vote politicians (or parties here in Slovakia) and they decide on your behalf what they want.
Agee there's kinda direct democracy. But check out, its public. How many top level politics are paid by insurances ? 50-80 people ?^^
For me a democracy is a government not funded by private companies.
Then do something about it: https://www.no-lobbying.ch/
This is so cool. Thank you for the link
For me a democracy is a government funded by funds that are not stolen away by an Eurofund embezzlement mafia.
You are not required to vote. You will not be punished if you abstain from your vote. You are completely free to chose "yes" or "no" based on your own judgings.
Isn't that exactly what democracy is about?
Who decides what I'm voting yes or no on?
There are two basic scenarios:
The thing is plenty of politics are paid by insurances and other big companies. Those people influence most of the voters which makes it unbalanced
Indeed, the lobbying is nasty and the party financing is not as transparent as it could be.
But discrediting the whole system as undemocratic because of those "minor flaws" is just not fair IMO.
I posted above already, but repeating for visibility. There is an initiative in the works right now to combat this: https://www.no-lobbying.ch/
Maybe not all the system is corrupted, but when I found that Switzerland just follow the rules defined by the open wallet forum in this case. I've doubts
Do you have the same issue with the W3C or the Wifi Alliance?
I don't
Why not? They are mostly made up of corporations.