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[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world -4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What you are saying just reinforces my point. Anti is not a strict negation like it is with not in logical statements. So a gun can be an anti-murder device in context of responsible legal owners and murder device in hands of criminals. There is no contradiction.

[–] elrik@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The same and obvious inconsistent purpose for guns does not apply to fascism, which is why your example with guns is a poor example.

  • If you are anti-fascist, you reject fascism.
  • If you are anti-anti-fascist, you accept fascism.

Similarly,

  • If you are anti-guns, you reject guns.
  • If you are anti-anti-guns, you accept guns.

See how it works just as well as "negation" so long as you don't attach an inconsistent purpose or meaning to what you're negating?

You can certainly go ahead and assign inconsistency to antifa to make the point that anti-antifa is not equivalent to pro-fascism, but that really has nothing to do with the meaning of the anti- prefix.

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If you are anti-anti-guns, you accept guns.

Except the word accept does the heavy lifting here. Accept is not the same as support or endorse or being part of. Accepting guns does not mean you are a gun owner. It does not even mean you believe people should own guns. All it means is you don't believe they should be banned or (heavily) regulated.