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General Staff: Russia has lost 1,100,600 troops in Ukraine since Feb. 24, 2022
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I would argue russians are generally well educated and have sufficient understanding of relevant historical facts (e.g. what the KGB is like and implication for putin's motivations). It's more that they don't want to act on it. One example is the polling on attitudes towards Stalin, the majority of russians clearly understand that he was not a good guy, but they justify his barbarism using vague notions of "it needed to be done, there was no other options".
I agree that the russians only understand violence and that they would need a taste of their own medicine over many years for them to choose a different path.
For sure. It's clear they are not going to do anything out of their own accord and only relatively harsh methods will work.
It's here where you agreed with the (now banned and removed) comment that we should genocide them. It's exactly why I said what the fuck.
I do agree that only harsh methods will work against the russians. Where is the contradiction and support for genocide?
What are those methods specifically, you didn't answer.
There are no harsh methods outside of torture and mass killings? You can't come up with anything.
And you didn't answer for your bullshit lying about how most russians don't support the war. When it's proven (with accounting for preference falsification) that a strong majority support the full scale invasion and an overwhelming majority support the annexation of Crimea, the beginning of the invasion of Ukraine.
More projection - YOU can't come up with anything. This isn't MY suggestion, it's YOURS - so I am asking you to tell me what YOU came up with and volunteered on here. Say it now. Be specific. What SPECIFICALLY do you want done to the Russian people to make them suffer via violence - your words - be specific. List the actions. And then we can discuss if those fall into torture or mass killing categories.
I did account for that and explained that thoroughly.
What the fuck
What exactly is the issue?
A strong majority of Russians are commited supporters of genocidal imperialism. If we add pro-imperialism russians who aren't explicitly supportive of the extermination of their neighbours' culture, language and identity, and mass summary killings, you have an overwhelming majority of the country (85%) supportive of genocidal imperialism or just imperialism.
They are not going just change just like that. They will need to suffer, the best option is to treat them like they treat others (without excesses like torture and mass summary killings that are broadly supported in russia).
One isn't doing the russians any favours by supporting and enabling their worst impulses and playing into their victimhood narratives.
See my other comments itt.
You come across as a bot intentionally warmongering, and youβre literally advocating for genocide yourself for the crime ofβ¦ genocide. Put forth by Putin, and not by the Russians as a whole.
That's like wanting to kill every American because of Trump hating PoC and gays and women - that would kill the PoC and gays and women.
This is obvious. So I assume you are a bad faith actor.
By the same logic, would it be reasonable for me assume you too are a bad faith actor and you are interested in supporting and enabling russian genocidal imperialism? I am genuinely curious.
Sure, that was always allowed, although the second part is a strawman. I never advocated for that, but you explicitly advocated for their genocide even while knowing there are radicals there trying to fight against this. Bad faith actors advocate for genocide.
"Bad faith actors advocate for genocide."
Genocide without mass killings and explicit avoidance of torture, fascinating stuff.
You advocated for mass killings several times and agreed with the other commenter calling for it who has now been banned and comments removed. Your disclaimer is an attempt at gaslighting.
But go ahead, how can you be violent towards Russians and give them everything they've got without mass killing or essentially torture? Answer. What did you mean when you said they needed to suffer and have violence towards them? What's your plan specifically?
Where did I advocate for mass killings?
So let me get this straight. You're saying suffering does not exist outside of torture and death? Am I getting you correctly?
And bombing their admin facilities, airports, ports, power planets (in the middle of winter, just like they did in Ukraine) is not an example of violence? Yeah? We are going non-violently blow up the power plant, yes?
Now you answer about your bullshit that russians are all afraid, when the research clearly shows that strong majority support the full scale invasion (even with preference falsification) and an overwhelming majority support the annexation of Crimea (the beginning of the invasion of Ukraine) with no one hiding their preference.
What SPECIFICALLY do you want done to the Russian people to make them suffer via violence - your words - be specific. List the actions, coward. And then we can discuss if those fall into torture or mass killing categories.
Bombing would indeed lead to mass death, regardless of if people are directly bombed or if the stuff they live off of is bombed. Ukraine is allowed to defend itself against Russia, self defense isn't generally considered violence anyway, and Ukraine is not advocating for every Russian person to be harmed at all, in fact they explicitly try to target PUTIN and his admin - something you have failed to criticize at all.
Do you like Putin? Why are you excusing what he's doing and blaming it on the victims? When significant amounts of Russians have loterally died and been tortured etc for fighting against him and the wars and violence HE perpetuates as their fascist dictator. That's a brave people.
Again, already explained, will have to agree to disagree on that last part.
So: What SPECIFICALLY do you want done to the Russian people to make them suffer via violence - your words - be specific. List the actions, coward. And then we can discuss if those fall into torture or mass killing categories.
What the fuck
Here you state it again, right after bringing up Stalin. Clearly a call for mass killing and genocide.
Russians only understanding violence is a fact. Show me a good faith action from russia in the last ~35 years.
I already did, Pussy Riot, and you also named off nonviolent people already, so why even ask this? You already know there are significant people fighting against Putin including on the side of Ukraine in espionage capacity.
Historically -Tolstoy wrote one of the most famous antiwar books ever - War and Peace.
You're projecting - YOU only know violence and it's the thing you jump to first instead of problem solving because your parents probably spanked you as a kid. All that did was to teach you to value and react with violence first before actually problem solving. That's why your only solution has been violence the whole time.
Honestly stupid af
By Russians I think he means the majority which is the deciding factor, what you are mentioning are exceptions.
AFAIK Pussy Riot had to flee Russia, exactly because they are exceptions.
No you are being stupid. Are you the same person who was banned?
Tolstoy wrote a War and Peace! Fascinating.
Honestly I am done here.
I accept your loss and failure.
What the fuck