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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk to c/uk_politics@feddit.uk

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Kier Starmer is not going to make it until the next election, this much is clear. This means that there will, in the next couple of years, be a leadership election. We need to pull Labour back towards the left and make it a party that can say it speaks to the working man/woman.

We need a leader that will impose fair taxation on the billionaire class.

To do this a strong leftist wing of the party needs to be present in the memberhip.

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[–] LuckingFurker@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's more than Starmer though, the rot is through the party. The best thing to do is accept that Labour is dying and pull away from it, don't give them money or support, and hope that those people all move on to some other party and grift there instead. Then maybe - maybe - Labour can be rebuilt

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The only thing that concerns me about that is the current surge that seems to be behind Reform. I definitely agree that Labour is decaying from the inside and needs serious reform if it's even salvageable at all, but my worry is that the people who stop supporting Labour will fracture off into a bunch of smaller groups, all the grifters will glom onto Reform and we'll end up with Farage as PM for a decade or more while the left sorts itself out.

[–] LuckingFurker@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago

And that is very possible, I'd even say likely, but that is Labour's fault and joining them and giving them your support because of the spectre of Reform is what got us to where we are now. It's certainly a nice idea to think "yeah, we'll join Labour and change it from the inside" but the reality is that a surge of memberships will just tell Labour that doing Reform Shit is a working strategy. Genuinely the best option is to pull away from Labour and hope they'll turn around