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cross-posted from: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/45277582

Opening my weather app this morning I was greeted by this warning:

Google has announced that, starting in 2026/2027, all apps on certified Android devices will require the developer to submit personal identity details directly to Google. Since the developers of this app do not agree to this requirement, this app will no longer work on certified Android devices after that time.

It's the first time I hear about this, seems to be about:

Tech crunch article from august, "google will require developer verification for android apps outside the play store"

Cirrus app: Github

Was this a big thing I somehow missed? I hope more devs will follow suit.

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[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Install a custom ROM. Or buy a Chinese made phone, such as Xiaomi (which I do not recommend***).

Edit: some custom ROM links in no particular order:

*** Edit 2: I don't recommend the route of a Chinese brand, because I've had only bad experiences.

[–] jcarax@beehaw.org 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Just to note, Calyx currently has a questionable future, and at best has frozen new installations while they work out new signing keys after some developers left the project. My understanding is that there will be one or no further updates to anyone that has a current installation, and a fresh install will be required if they do continue development.

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Their gerrit is extremely active, and it was only one Dev that left, cdesai, who is also a lead Dev for Lineage. While its possible they dont come back, given the very active gerrit (and the fact that the other person who left was Nick, who was really only a PR person) i think theres a good chance the project comes back fine.

[–] jcarax@beehaw.org 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Man, I hope so. I'm on Graphene for now, but I'd like to move away from Pixel devices.

A security chip is great if you know what it's doing, but we really have no idea what Titan might be doing in the background. And Google is becoming more and more abusive to the FOSS community.

I'm seriously considering trying to import a Jolla C2. I ported my number to jmp.chat, so as long as I can run Cheogram or some other XMPP client that handles the PSTN gateway well, I honestly don't even care much about cellular connectivity anymore. My phone is basically a wifi phone with Signal, downloaded maps, authenticator app, and my music at this point.

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 3 points 6 days ago

I felt the same way about getting a OnePlus 6 or Pixel 3 for PostMarketOS. I'm currently on iodeOS which supports a lot of devices, even some EoL pixels with bootloader relocking. Its similar enough to Calyx. I tried Graphene but it wasn't for me. I'm hoping someone within Google makes sure AOSP stays the A_OS_P, but if not I guess its time for us to start throwing money at rhe PMOS devs.

[–] Zangoose@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Note that if you're in the US, Samsung doesn't unlock the bootloaders at all and afaik Motorola is also hit or miss. Importing a phone is also risky as international versions might not have the cell bands required for US carriers.

If you want a custom ROM in the US you basically have to buy a pixel, and at that point you might as well go with GrapheneOS since it's the most secure

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

And aren't they stopping that with Pixels?

Somebody needs to actually make a Linux phone.

[–] Zangoose@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

They haven't stopped it yet for the pixel 10s but who knows how long it'll last

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why the Chinese phone would work? In Europe they have Google play services and thus are also affected. Maybe it's the Chinese version of those? Not sure if they have Google play services there

That's a fair point. It depends on the manufacturer. Some brands don't have google play preinstalled. I probably should have mentioned that before, sorry mate. The Xiaomi I had didn't have playstore installed, so I had installed fdroid and aurora store. I'm actually not sure about the future of aurora store with this play store integrity bs.