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Mods, if this is too offtopic, or potentially too incendiary a topic, I understand, I just do not know where else to post this.

Further, I fully agree with the sidebar rule here, let us please keep this civil and keep politics out of this to the greatest extent possible.

DISCLAIMER: Please, everyone and anyone, do not consider any of this discussion to be 100% confirmed fact, this is meant for reasoned consideration, not wild speculation nor justifying motivated reasoning of any kind or flavor.

Further: I do not endorse any political views of this guy, but I think his ballistic analysis is worth consideration.

Please at least watch this linked ~20 minute video.

The guy claims to be either a current or former USMC Scout Sniper, and while I cannot confirm this beyond a reasonable doubt... I also do not really have any reason to doubt that he is.

There is also a longer 2 1/2 hour livestream where this guy presumably goes into more detail, which he has linked on his YT vid page.


Essentially, the guy goes through 4 different camera angles.

He explains that the movement of Kirk's shirt is almost certainly not a result of any kind of body armor as is widely being speculated; instead, it is from how Kirk's lapel mic and earpiece and the wire for such were affixed to him.

He shows that the earpiece actually was captured flying off of Kirk's right ear, and that this is what caused the movement of Kirk's shirt.


But also... he believes that the shot did not come from from straight on.

He believes that the shot came from Kirk's right, and he believes that the wound which....featured the 'geyser' of blood coming out of Kirk's neck... he believes this was an exit wound, not an entry wound.

He believes that the entry would was somewhere on the right side of roughly Kirk's jaw, to behind or around his right ear, that the round traversed through Kirk from his right, to his left, and that it likely functionally killed him instantly either by obliteration of the lower brain, or severing of the spinal cord.

He also believes he may have captured a reflection of a muzzle flash, as well as potentially the muzzle flash itself... indicating a shooting position from Kirk's right... and that the currently most popular and widely accepted (?) idea that the shot came from 150 - 200 yards/meters away, basically from nearly directly in front of Kirk... cannot be the case.


Finally, be believes that the caliber used was not 30.06, that the visible wound is simply too small to indicate a 30.06, that it is more likely a lower caliber round.

At least this is inline with ... what I have been able to gather / opinionate based on the published image of what is supposed to be the weapon used in the incident.

Long story short, I think it is more likely that the rifle is not 'an older Mauser in 30.06' as officially described, but instead, more likely to be either a Remington 700 or Ruger American, a model from roughly the 80s - 90s - 00s, and that it is likely to be in caliber .270 or .243.

Hopefully I have linked this correctly, here is the start of a comment chain from myself, in another thread, a few days back, when I attempted to analyze the presented image of the weapon being claimed to be the weapon.

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/21325405


If you would, please discuss in the most objective manner you are capable of.

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I did an edit while you were doing an edit, uh, yeah, this is really fucking bad from a standpoint of likely immediate or near immediate crackdown of federal forces on ... their own base dissenting, everyone else dissenting... they're gonna have to rewrite a lot of history in real time and/or silence a lot of people.

Fuck.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Idk, I'm thinking this is just going to be another JFK situation where the truth never really comes out. Like, Allen Dulles is just going to rise from his grave and say "magic bullet" and that's all we get until someone writes a book 40yr later saying "actually it was probably an accident by ~~the secret service~~ his security and they covered up their incompetence," and everyone just goes "Huh, neat. Anyway.."

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah, there are more and more and more guntubers, many of them ex SF or some kind of sniper, making videos on ... none of this makes any fucking sense.

I guess I am glad to be in the company of an ex Green Beret, who also does not believe the shot that hit Kirk could be from a 30.06.

Gotta respect subject matter expertise, a Green Beret probably knows something about guns.

Oh boy.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=e2cv9DSt538

And here's him on the 'man of steel' bullshit, from today.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=onElfDyeoks

Current top comment is something like REMEMBER 63 AND THE MAGIC BULLET.

So we have already achieved JFK status.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Haha yeah I like how nobody but jesus freaks are buying this.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

In my experience that is generally a good sign that an idea is ... well, quite literally, beyond rational belief, requiring cognitive dissonance, magical thinking, to be taken seriously.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago

Yeah that about sums it up lmao. Hell tbh I bet even the christians I talk to regularly will call bullshit on this, I can't wait to see what they say!