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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

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a detailed examination of the leaked Scott Alexander emails, for your reference (www.tumblr.com)
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[–] swlabr@awful.systems 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

I’m midway through this and this part stood out to me, this is part of the email that was written by S.Al, edited for length:

Compare RationalWiki and the neoreactionaries. […] Almost nothing they say is outrageously wrong, but almost nothing they say is especially educational to someone who is smart enough to have already figured out that homeopathy doesn't work […] they fit exactly into my existing worldview without teaching me anything new

The Neoreactionaries provide a vast stream of garbage with occasional nuggets of absolute gold in them. Despite considering myself pretty smart and clueful, I constantly learn new and important things […] from the Reactionaries. Anything that gives you a constant stream of very important new insights is something you grab as tight as you can and never let go of.

The garbage doesn't matter because I can tune it out.

“Rational Wiki presents an understanding of reality that I mostly agree with and is thus boring. I want some spicy takes so I’m going to go suck on the firehose of reactionary diarrhoea, but it’s ok because my throat game is too good to let any of it through” type shit

[–] PMMeYourJerkyRecipes@awful.systems 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The garbage doesn’t matter because I can tune it out.

I'm pretty sure I've dunked on this quote before, but I can't even imagine the hubris on display here. Obviously if you read a bunch of convincing lies you're going to end up believing some of them! He knows he's reading propaganda (I've fucking read articles written by him talking about how Moldbug deliberately tries to trick the reader into believing bullshit by appealing to innate biases), but he's 100% sure he can divine the "hidden truths" just by thinking about it with his big Rationalist brain!

It's like seeing someone using heroin because they've convinced themselves they're too smart to get addicted, except dumber because at least that guy didn't write a fucking anti-heroin FAQ!

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 2 points 1 week ago

image descriptionA picture of the cartoon cat Garfield, with the caption "You are not immune to propaganda"

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