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Capitalism made your iphone (lemmy.ml)

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[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

People do cut in line because it is not illegal

You've missed the point, which is to show that you already participate and adhere to a democratic decision despite there being no enforcement.

just like how people did murder other people and their families and in some cases entire tribes in the Wild West Frontier because it was not illegal.

And that happened under a system in which labor was not collectively owned, where automation was not anywhere where it is now, and the resources were not spread fairly. Scarcity causes exactly that kind of strife.

But how does the concept of collective ownership invalidate a state?

It doesn't, the dissolution of classes is what does that under Marxist theory.

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're missing the point. The point being that regardless of whether or not I follow the rules, others demonstrably will not.

It doesn't, the dissolution of classes is what does that under Marxist theory.

Classes form organically, only a collective with means of enforcement are capable of dissolving classes and mandating equality, and therefor a system, a state, is a hard requirement.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 days ago

The point being that regardless of whether or not I follow the rules, others demonstrably will not.

I'm aware. Its also against the law to drive faster than the speed limit. Yet the majority of drivers do it despite there being very real enforcement. Laws aren't guaranteed to work for anything.

Classes form organically, only a collective with means of enforcement are capable of dissolving classes and mandating equality, and therefor a system, a state, is a hard requirement.

That's the socialist point of view, but it is not the only one.

What makes you say classes can only be dissolved with state enforcement?