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Democrats release Epstein docs with Musk, Thiel, Bannon and Prince Andrew mentions
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I seriously doubt everyone who traveled to that island was in on the rapes. But you about couldn't convince me any given visitor was ignorant of the crimes.
Yeah I'm just not sure.
Are you granted entry to the child rape island to just look around and talk to people without incriminating yourself? Seems unlikely.
Was there a single attendee who managed to avoid sexually assaulting a minor? Maybe. Would I believe anyone who says that was them? Absolutely not.
Epstein was loaning and moving millions, maybe billions, of dollars. I can hardly pretend to understand what the game is like on that level.
But first and foremost, Epstein was a financier. The money was top, girls second. And the girls were a source of pleasure and blackmail. Rinse and repeat. C-C-C-COMBO! Once you set foot in that tar pit, for whatever reason, you're stuck.
Gates, for all his flaws, never struck me as a kiddy fucker. Horny wasn't his game. Ruthless domination of the IT world was his goal, and he got it. Does that make sense? And yes, I am well aware of his evil past. I started learning computers when he was a kid building Microsoft in the 80s. Read his unauthorized biography, tracked him on the news, worked his ecosystems, seen where he's been, mostly. I get it.
Guess I'm only saying, because he met Epstein, flew to his island, not automatically putting rape on his record. But again, I'd have a hard fucking time believing he didn't know.
If you believe Epstein was an asset of an intelligence agency (perhaps more than one), then why would they waste the money and time on him flying people out that he wasn't going to blackmail? Like he is the sex blackmail guy, that's his role for intelligence, there's no need for him to be around people if he isn't doing his job and getting sex blackmail from them.
Similarly, Ray J (who is now claiming to work with the FBI as an informant to take down the Kardashians/Jenners that he says are worse than Diddy and indeed both groups associated a lot with Justin Bieber and others), Ray J has long been said to be a celebrity drug dealer. He was the one who supposedly sold Whitney Houston her drugs, including the night she died. If someone is hanging out with Ray J or partying with Ray J, you'd assume they are doing drugs because that's his literal job and he just won't be wasting time not dealing.
Also, remember that Ray J was who filmed Kim K's porno, rumored to be released by her mom Kris. Kim used to work for Ray J's sister Brandi (largely innocent of all this afaik) and stole from her, substantial amounts. And ofc, Kim was married to Kanye, who parades his now partners around like sex slaves and is an open Nazi and hangs out with Candace Owens, a probable Russian asset.
Who knew that shitty celeb gossip would become so relevant?
Wild! But to your first point, and kinda related to the rest, association is quite enough for blackmail, especially at that level of criminality. :)
Yeah that's something I wasn't sure about. Is going there incriminating enough on its own? I can't tell.
I don't know how "blooded in" someone would need to be, to be accepted in a space like that. Plenty of epstein associates do seem to have avoided public tarring, so maybe just going there is not incriminating enough. But would people have known then that it might be live-down-able?
I certainly don't know.
No, it isn't.