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[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

First, I trust the numerous first hand accounts of actual leaders of the time over this one historian acting like their memories aren’t great fifty years after the fact.

This may be shocking, but leaders often lie. Only Eisenhower's memory was impugned in that statement. Sorry that contemporary accounts don't back up their later politiking.

Second, the imminent Soviet invasion absolutely was a material factor.

Then why the fuck did you quote

Based on a detailed investigation of all the facts, and supported by the testimony of the surviving Japanese leaders involved, it is the Survey’s opinion that certainly prior to 31 December 1945, and in all probability prior to 1 November 1945, Japan would have surrendered even if the atomic bombs had not been dropped, even if Russia had not entered the war, and even if no invasion had been planned or contemplated. - US Government Strategic Bombing Survey, 1946

Ah. I checked your comment history. A campist bootlicker. I think we're done here.

[–] NewDark -3 points 3 days ago

A material factor in the decision for the bombs to be dropped, not in the necessity for Japan to surrender. Those are two different things.