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Thursday's incident came as the community observed Yom Kippur, the holiest day in the Jewish calendar

Police said they had shot a man suspected in a stabbing and car-ramming that injured four people at a synagogue Thursday in the northern English city of Manchester on Yom Kippur, the holiest day in the Jewish calendar.

Greater Manchester Police said in a series of posts on X that a major incident was declared after a member of the public reported that they had "witnessed a car being driven toward members of the public" and that one "man had been stabbed" near the Heaton Park Hebrew Congregation Synagogue in Crumpsall, an area known for its large Jewish community.

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[–] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Notice that they never said anything about the religion, but question the ACTIONS of that synagogue before expending emotional energy.

And they didn't call for their deaths, they merely said that if they were one of the synagogues who are preaching hate then they won't care about their suffering, just as those people don't care about the suffering in gaza right now.

This shit is so common and so infuriating - "They laughed at his death because of his beliefs"

No, you are being disingenuous - "They laughed at his death because of his actions. he called for the death and suffering of many." is not the same thing at all.

[–] Djehngo@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

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You replied to my comment but none of your reply seems to relate to any of it, was it intended to be a reply to another comment, did you just assume what I had written, or did something get very lost in translation?

Notice that they never said anything about the religion, but question the ACTIONS of that synagogue before expending emotional energy.

I didn't accuse the parent comment of targeting Jews, I referred to the killer as targeting Jews given the attack was on a synagogue on yom Kippur.

And they didn't call for their deaths, they merely said that if they were one of the synagogues who are preaching hate then they won't care about their suffering, just as those people don't care about the suffering in gaza right now.

I never said they did, I specifically used the phrase "minimise" which I believe is appropriate when someone states religiously motivated killing is not worthy of care, arguably they made this conditional on the synagogue not preaching hate, but this feels like an incredibly thin justification, it was not mentioned anywhere in the article, I have not seen any evidence of widespread islamophobia in synagogues (googling variations on the phrase yields nothing). Raising this as far as i can tell only serves as a manufured justification to deny the severity of this act.

This shit is so common and so infuriating - "They laughed at his death because of his beliefs"No, you are being disingenuous - "They laughed at his death because of his actions. he called for the death and suffering of many." is not the same thing at all.

This is just confusing, the parts within quotation marks bear no resemblance to anything I wrote, even being charitable and assuming "You are being disengenous" is using the rhetorical "you" it still seems a mile off topic, maybe it refers to the discussion around Charlie Kirk?

[–] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

That voice there is a part of you that knows that murdering people solely on the basis of which religion

This is the part of your comment I was referring to. That user never said anything about their religion. They said something about waiting to have information about their actions.

Conflating those two is easy, and effective at making those who judge others by their actions seem like religious bigots.

[–] Djehngo@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

I had assumed it would be clear that I was ascribing religious motivation to the killer rather than the commenter. Especially as I clarified this in the thing you are now directly replying to.

[–] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Then I definitely misunderstood your intent. My Apologies.

My fury at the use of 'based on their beliefs' stands in general, but I apologize for ascribing that to your comment without first asking.

[–] Djehngo@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

Fair, I can see how it would read in an ambiguous way from someone operating in a different context.