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Thursday's incident came as the community observed Yom Kippur, the holiest day in the Jewish calendar

Police said they had shot a man suspected in a stabbing and car-ramming that injured four people at a synagogue Thursday in the northern English city of Manchester on Yom Kippur, the holiest day in the Jewish calendar.

Greater Manchester Police said in a series of posts on X that a major incident was declared after a member of the public reported that they had "witnessed a car being driven toward members of the public" and that one "man had been stabbed" near the Heaton Park Hebrew Congregation Synagogue in Crumpsall, an area known for its large Jewish community.

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[–] quackerjo@lemmy.wtf 18 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Mods removed my comment for saying I don't have the emotional energy left to care about attacks on pro-genocide groups.

Not that I supported killing them, or that I endorsed this attack, but that it's hard for me expend emotional energy caring about an in-group actively engaged in a genocide.

I also went out of my way to explain how Israel's role in conflating Judaism with Zionism is a key reason why I feel that way.

And let me be clear: this attack was wrong and it is 100% counterproductive to bringing an end to the genocide.

I do not support or condone this violence, but I will not be guilted into having a different emotional response just because others find it more acceptable

And while I strongly feel that my own background should have no bearing on the conversation, I will point out that I was raised in a Jewish Zionist household. So please don't tell me how I'm a self-hating Jew, anti-semitic, or otherwise racially prejudiced against myself.

With all of that out of the way, let's take a closer look at the target of this attack:

Rabbi Daniel Walker serves as co-chair of the community and interfaith committees of the JRC and has been the Rabbi of the Heaton Park Hebrew Congregation since 2008.

He has previously held a number of rabbinic and educational positions in Israel and the UK.

Rabbi Walker was educated at Manchester Jewish Grammar School and went on to study in yeshivas in the USA and Israel, where he received his ordination in 2003.

How does Rabbi Walkers JRC organization view the conflict? Would it shock to learn that oppose Palistinain self-determination, and do not consider the conflict to be a genocide?

As an organisation, we are appalled by the motion passed by Labour delegates on the Middle East conflict. To agree to the text without referencing the atrocities committed by Hamas on 7th October 2023 when 1,200 innocent people were murdered or the fact they continue to hold 48 hostages means they have no credibility to comment on what is an extremely complex issue.

The fact a more moderate motion that did reference these key facts was defeated highlights how many seem unmotivated to work towards a peaceful solution to the conflict. The text is not binding and we will continue holding conversations with key stakeholders within government to advocate against taking divisive and deeply problematic positions.

During our time at Conference we have held a number of meetings with Ministers, MPs and the press focusing on our concerns around the record levels of antisemitic hate crime across society. We also reiterated our strong opposition to the unilateral recognition of Palestine, supported the Government’s position on proscribing Palestine Action, highlighted concerns around antisemitism in cultural spaces including the need to cancel events by those who incite hatred whilst emphasising the importance of holding the Iranian regime to account by enforcing snapback sanctions.

This is an Orthodox Zionist organization helmed by an yeshiva educated conservatives. They are explicitly against Palestinian self-determination and who don't express an ounce of sympathy or concern for the Palestinians being slaughtered.

For a final time, this attack was wrong. Violence is wrong. This should not be supported, celebrated, or sanctified.

But please don't censor people who are expressing valid feelings about how they emotionally process attacks against organizations of unashamedly racial supremacists, who are actively part of the in group currently perpetrating a genocide.

This is also relevant discussion to this topic because it speaks to a larger issue facing the Jewish community and public sentiment and opinions that are only getting worse, whether they express themselves through inexcusable violence like today, or by people having tragically apathetic emotional responses to violence.

[–] sadfitzy@ttrpg.network 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry you got censored.

In time, we'll have communities and instances that take moderation seriously and don't remove posts just because they feel like it.

[–] quackerjo@lemmy.wtf 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I can't speak to the motivations for its removal.

For all I know a bunch of users reported my comment and a mod removed it accidentally because they're overworked or tired.

I'm not trying to denigrate the work they do, just highlighting a small issue that I personally had.

And to be fair, my original comment was less articulate and more to the point, so perhaps the fault was mine for not providing the proper disclaimers about my positions regarding the rejection of violence. I thought I had, but I can accept that others may have interpreted it in ways that I did not intend.

[–] sadfitzy@ttrpg.network 5 points 12 hours ago

Interesting.

I wonder if anti-semitism is on the rise and what the Jewish community thinks they should do about it.

We might see more money getting spent in order to convince people that Zionists aren't getting away with genocide.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The sooner Netanyahu is stopped, the sooner this wave of antisemitism simmers down.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

So far we don't have any information on the attacker's motive. Right-wing antisemitism is more commonly violent and isn't going to be impacted by a change of leadership in Israel.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Antisemitism has spiked globally as the Zionists have progressed their genocide.

There's a clear link.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Which is not necessarily related to this crime. Antisemitism is not a unified ideology where decreasing the prevalence of one form will impact the safety of Jewish people from another.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

Currently conflating antisemitism with antizionism is the only defense the Zionist party of Isreal has left to distract from their genicide.

So anyone continuing to push this narrative while trying to ignore the genocide is really suspicious IMO

As an Ashkenazi jew it makes me sick how my people are used as a political tool to protect genocidal fascist religious extremists.

[–] LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone 17 points 18 hours ago

This is devastating. There'll have been people desperately protecting their children. The best we can hope is the body count is low

[–] belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 18 hours ago