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    [–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 54 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Who even uses apt-get these days?

    [–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Yeah apt-get is so old it officially misses packages that apt... gets.

    [–] CoyoteFacts@piefed.ca 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Whoa, do you have something to read up on that? I'd be extremely surprised, since apt-get is supposed to be the script-safe variant, i.e. I'd imagine it's the more stable of the two.

    [–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (3 children)

    It's actually just personal experience, but I stopped using apt-get a few years back now because I noticed if I did apt after apt-get there would often be a bunch of packages it missed.

    Edit: looks like it might be because apt-get can't ~~satisfy dependencies~~ install new packages when upgrading while apt can since apt is a suite of different apt tools rolled into one.

    [–] CoyoteFacts@piefed.ca 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Yeah I'm reading a little bit on it, and it seems like apt-get can't install new packages during an upgrade. On initial reading I was thinking there were specific packages it couldn't download or something, but this makes sense too. Regardless, this is news to me; I always assumed that apt and apt-get were the same process, just with apt-get having stable text output for awk'ing and apt being human-readable. I've been using nala for a long time anyway, but this is very useful knowledge.

    [–] felbane@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago

    I've been using nala for a long time anyway

    Does Simba know about this?

    [–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 4 points 21 hours ago

    apt-get upgrade --with-new-pkgs

    [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Wait what.

    apt-get is made for scripting, apt is interactive. Both should resolve dependencies. dpkg does not resolve them.

    But for interactive usage always use apt, guides using apt-get have no idea what they are doing

    [–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

    You're right, I misspoke, it's that it can't install new packages, it can only upgrade existing ones. I guess I was thinking the only reason it would need to install new packages was if that was a new dependency.

    [–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 8 points 1 day ago

    apt generally downloads more things than apt-get on my Debian machine. apt-get never broke anything, but I tend to eye it suspiciously now.

    [–] 9point6@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

    Legitimately didn't know this and occasionally type apt-get just for a bit of frivolity

    [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

    have been out of the loop for a while. what am I missing, what should I use in the future?