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[–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 653 points 1 day ago (14 children)

And this is why having 3rd party app stores is important. It’s why it matters that Google is killing side loading, if two fucking companies get to decide what you can do on your phone, we’re in a bad spot technology wise

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 406 points 1 day ago (6 children)

We're in a bad spot technology wise

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 60 points 1 day ago (6 children)

And the open source movement is such a blind spot to the 'left' as well, even though technology freedom is critical if you want to be able to organise any type of resistance in the digital space.

Lemmy users largely get it, obviously, but centre left people will happily let themselves get locked into the Apple/Google walled gardens even though you're just giving that company a ridiculous amount of power over you.

[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 45 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Right? The collective dismissal of Mastodon from leftist influencers when the Muskening happened was eye opening.

Like, there's a collaborative, volunteer-based platform right over there. You want mutual aid? Open-source is as mutual-aid as it gets.

But it's nerd shit.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 15 hours ago

Yeah it's unhinged, FOSS is as communism in practice as it gets right now and the left just ignores it, dismissing it as "tech bad" because they can only think in AnPrim brainrot terms most of the time and judge only by aesthetics and make sweeping generalisations about social media that lack any and all imagination.

[–] SOULFLY98@slrpnk.net 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Because they are controlled opposition.

The only time something not controlled got popular was TikTok and you saw how quickly both parties went to ban it in 2024 after normal people started talking about Gaza genocide in every day conversation. The American Congress worked together to ban it even though they couldn't agree on anything else.

It went from an Asian platform where Asian people in the West connected with each other outside the mainstream blue pill/red pill false choice and shared culture as well as history that isn't taught, to "here's the truth about Jesus" and "the world is flat debate me" after that vote. Now it's full on MAGA.

Mastodon is harder to control because servers can pop up organically, but I guess Threads was a hedge against that threat.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 hours ago

The only time something not controlled got popular was TikTok

I'm not sure what you mean by controlled, but how I got to know it was as the malware that's recommended to everyone on the front page of the google play store, and then even factory preinstalled on a lot of them.

[–] shrugs@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago

Also, on xitter are all these assholes I don't care about. I can't leave that platform. Pathetic!

[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

I originally got introduced to sociallist idiology through Richard Stallman's speaches. I know he had some, uhh... "interesting" things to say about Epstein's victims (which I believe he has since redacted), but his speaches are absolutely still worth listening to just for the content alone.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 13 points 20 hours ago

Yeah, very disappointed by RMS' creepiness (the Epstein stuff isn't the only thing), but he was 100% right about software freedom.

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[–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 68 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No doubt. I’ve gotten to the point where I have like 6 apps on my phone and it’s in lockdown mode on iOS. And I’d be on grapheneOS if I wasn’t required to use iOS for work.

[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 63 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Can you have your job pay for an iPhone while you have a different personal phone? I’m a big fan of keeping a work device that’s separate from a personal device.

[–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 54 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I probably could, but I’m also a recovering drug addict and my partner is pretty hesitant about a second device as it’s another way to hide things. However I’m the head of the MDM team so I’m not really nervous about what the company can see

[–] fascicle@leminal.space 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I thought you were head of the MDMA team for a second and thought that could be rough as a recovering drug addict

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Definitely got the experience required for the job

[–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Oddly I’ve only tried MDMA a few times and it never really worked. There’s some anecdotal evidence that it doesn’t work for those with bipolar which I do have, that might be the one drug I could be in charge of with no temptation actually

[–] shrugs@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

MDMA doesn't work for me, nor does cocaine. What does that say about me? I don't care to be honest... but the pro is, I will never get addicted to either of those, which is nice, I suppose. Anyway, what were we taking about?

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 points 14 hours ago

Autism, ADHD, bipolar and those on antidepressants have rather minimal MDMA effects

[–] sys110x@aussie.zone 8 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Hey, just in case you haven't heard this before - maybe book an ADD/ADHD test if some of the indicators resonate with you.

I have a diagnosed friend who also said the same thing about stimulants not having the expected effect. It's apparently common for drugs like cocaine and MDMA in people with ADHD.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/cocaine-and-adhd

https://theforgerecovery.com/mdma-and-adhd-understanding-the-effects-on-neurodivergent-individuals/

[–] shrugs@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (3 children)

Thanks, very nice of you to send me these links. The thing is for me, I refuse to see my ADHD tendencies (never officially diagnosed, but pretty sure) as any kind of illness or shortcoming at all. It's just the way I am. Fortunately I have the luck to live a life where it doesn't affect me negatively, so I don't see a reason to question it.

The links talk about cocaine having a calming affect instead of a stimulating one. That's funny, because I'm not even sure if it has an effect at all, I'm to dense to really notice any effect. To each his own.

By the way, i just came home from a nights out and I'm on amphetamine, which definitely has an effect I notice. It cures my anxiety and lets me feel at ease. I'd never write these posts without it. Drugs are strange...

I wish you the best my friend!

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 2 points 17 hours ago

Knowing more about yourself and giving yourself more tools doesn't have anything to do with seeing it as a "shortcoming"

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[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 5 points 17 hours ago

I do this. Highly recommended.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 36 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

We rapidly need to switch to Linux Mobile. PostmarketOS and Mobian are the two most promising projects, and I would highly recommend anyone reading this to donate to them if you have the means.

Both projects directly use your donations to hire developers to build and polish the critical essentials to get this alternative viable as a daily driver.

[–] ISOmorph@feddit.org 9 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

While I full heartily agree with you, I'm pessimistic you will ever reach enough people with these alternatives. Even on privacy forums you hear people fervently defending how banking apps are mandatory. Those will never run on anything that isn't locked down. The eID proposal for the EU is also dependent on Android and iOS.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 4 points 16 hours ago (7 children)

how banking apps are mandatory.

This i don't get, i'd rather use home-banking from my home PC.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 8 points 13 hours ago

A lot of banks require their personal apps as 2FA to access your account. I would never agree to that.

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[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 11 points 22 hours ago

It doesn't necessarily need to achieve mass adoption, it just needs to get to a 'good enough' point to make it viable for those who are willing or desperate to get away from big tech.

Linux still has plenty of people giving reasons why they won't switch, but it's now finally viable for many, including myself. I just want mobile Linux to get to that point too, even if there's still rough edges.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Yeah, people should have listened to the people warning of privacy concerns with online services. Now that your data is valuable, companies will do anything to extract it from you.

Stop using those products, de-Google, install Linux, use self-hosted solutions.

It will take some effort to switch. You get to decide how much effort you’re willing to expend in order to not sacrifice all of your privacy and control of your digital lives.

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[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 132 points 1 day ago (7 children)

"Sideloading" is their term, invented to make it sound like something it is not. We should not use this word. The correct word is "installing".

You don't "sideload" on Windows when you install software outside of the Microsoft Store™️. There is no real difference or distinction with software on phones, so there is no need for a special word.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 42 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I can see Microsoft moving to the same sort of thinking as well. Apple already made Mac OS users jump through hoops when you want to install something from the internet or even through a third party package manager like homebrew.

[–] Danitos@reddthat.com 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Microsoft has been trying this for years already. That eventually led to Valve incresing their efforts in the Linux gaming front and releasing the Steam Deck.

See this

[–] Zink@programming.dev 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder if Valve would ever get into the Linux Phone market.

But for the platform itself to be open, I wonder how much would have to be recreated.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Does anybody actually enjoy gaming on the phone or just do it because there nothing better to do?

I would perhaps buy a valve phone but I wouldn't want to game on it which sounds weird.

Unless it was like a switch and had detachable joycons.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 11 hours ago

Oh same here. I'm hopeful that valve brings us a linux phone, not a gaming phone. I've never really gotten into gaming on mobile either.

However, if they DO make a linux phone, I'm sure it will be Steam branded and have all kinds of gaming-specific tweaks.

But again, to me that just sounds like it will have good hardware specs. So not a problem!

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[–] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago

Not to defend it, but the first time I encountered the term was when BlackBerry released their Playbook tablet. It ran their bbos10 and they created an android emulator so you could run some android apps. The process of installing the apk into the emulator was called sideloading.

I miss BlackBerry is all I really wanted to say.

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[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 16 points 23 hours ago

Your phone is fucking you no matter what you do.

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