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Either in regards to the current political situation, or for other reasons. What drew you to the idea of living in another country? Do you think whatever benefits it offers are really worth it, or is the grass just greener on the other side of the fence?

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[–] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 4 points 17 hours ago

I think no, unless things get real real bad. Which they might. But maybe not even then. Honestly I have been thinking about this and I really don't want to leave.

Honestly, we did this shit. It's a crappy thing to turn this monster loose on the world and then peace the fuck out and let it do whatever it's going to do. We let it develop through inaction and apathy, it's our problem, we should stay and deal with it. Even the activist part of the US (which is small) is still not really having any kind of plan, just reacting and getting out and yelling sometimes. As far as I can see.

The one thing I really wish I could have is some kind of community that believes in the values I believe in. I think education is important, science is good, civic values are important to make everything a nice livable place. Honestly, things like this current spasm of fascism tend to have a pretty short shelf life (even if they manage to kill a bunch of people in the short span of years they're around). I am more afraid of what happens after, in a whole society which doesn't believe in education, doesn't have media that brings any kind of awareness of what is happening, is filled with people who don't give a fuck and don't care about each other. What happens when that society starts striking back to defend itself against the violence that's being visited on it now? What does it set up after? What country are we going to have when it's 2035, as climate change is really getting its hooks in? Are we going to just turn things back over to the Democrats and hope for the best? That doesn't sound good but I can't really forsee how anything else could happen. I would feel better if it was some decent people with a solid grasp of making a good place, like a lot of them and prominent in the country. If I felt like I could find those people, and get back to back with them for whatever is coming, I would feel a hell of a lot better about still being here. Honestly if I felt like those people existed somewhere else in the world that I knew about I would probably want more to leave. But for now at least, definitely for as long as I am safe here with my level of privilege, I feel like it is criminal to try to leave and not do anything about this fucking mess that we all made.