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submitted 1 year ago by Wilshire@lemmy.ml to c/ukraine@sopuli.xyz

"We haven't attacked Ukraine either. We're defending our territory", "Ukraine was ours then [in USSR], too!", "It [Ukraine] was always part of Russia", - this Russian woman is a good illustration of how an average Russian person sees the war and Ukraine. It is a mix of propaganda, ignorance and stereotypes, with little independent thinking.

https://t.me/pravdaGerashchenko_en/27904

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[-] SamsonSeinfelder@feddit.de 74 points 1 year ago

Ukraine was never part of Russia. Ukraine was part of the SOVIET UNION. Russian really forget all the time that Russia is not the Soviet Union. Russia did not win WW2. The Soviet Union won the WW2. Fucking losers tell themself the story of how glorious they are, while nearly half of those death were not Russian (Total USSR: 10,600,000 Military death, 6,750,000 were russian - source Table: Soviet Union)

[-] vox@sopuli.xyz 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

soviet union was basically just russian occupation with some extra steps tho

[-] JesseoftheNorth@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not that I in any way condone what Russia has been doing, that’s not exactly right. Ukraine was part of Tsarist Russia before the USSR. However, Ukrainians have the right to self-determination and the right to defend themselves from aggressive neighbours just like anyone else.

[-] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

She sounds exactly like a Confederate Trump supporter.

[-] satanmat@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Don’t go dragging your facts into this…

Putin tells us what to believe and that’s it. The thinking has been done…

Not sure if /s

[-] jumperalex@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

You might find these lectures fascinating to get into just how wrong the tankies are when they say it was part of Russia.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLh9mgdi4rNewfxO7LhBoz_1Mx1MaO6sw_

It's a lot to get through, and I'm only through half of it, but really fascinating

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