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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

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Plan for Windows 10 EOL and discounted old laptops (piefed.world)

submitted 3 days ago by TurkeyDurkey@piefed.world to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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So that very important day is almost upon us.

October 14th is the day set for when Windows 10 stops security updates (no consumer is going to pay for extended) and begins to really push people to Windows 11. Windows 11 has strict hardware requirements that a lot of "older" devices that most people have do not meet.

And so, I am sure many individuals and companies may be getting rid of their old laptops and even desktops to recoup the vost of new devices.

What is the plan, when should we move in? What kind of deals should we be looking out for?

I want to find a great deal on a great laptop just for the fun of it. Some of my friends (converted to Linux) are waiting to get new laptops and score a deal. I have been waiting years for this day and I hope it can feel like a special day.

Any good places to look for these kinds of deals?

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[+] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net -6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My experience after many years

Dont recommend mint to new users or they will think linux is objectively worse looking, has graphics issues with mixed DPI and multi monitor, etc etc

Mint does some things right, some things wrong. Like flatpak, but not entire flathub. Or nice update reminder but no automatic updates.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If you're recommending immutable or declarative distros to new users, you are doing it way wrong...

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net -3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

"immutable"

Why? Note that these distros are not "immutable", but all of the below are used mostly by noobs and are all immutable

android
steamOS
any mobile or console OS
even Windows and MacOS in big parts

Image-based means that updates and upgrades are EXTREMELY stable. They basically never break, while package-based systems ALWAYS lead you into horrible situations, unbooting desktops, broken whatever, autoremoving GNOME for whatever reason etc.

Murphys law, if something bad can happen, it will happen. We cannot seriously use and promote systems where we expect upgrades to break them.

I nowadays administer systems a bit and have seen completely broken systems on

Linux Mint
Fedora regular
Ubuntu
Debian

Package-based distros are not beginner friendly. They give the user the complete ability to break their entire system, for what reason?

Not everyone needs to be a sysadmin. If we want to convince people to switch, Linux needs to be at least as stable as Windows or even MacOS.

declarative

Why not?? Have you ever thought about that statement more than a few seconds?

Why dont you see the whole picture? Declarative means you need to spend more time setting things up, having an experienced person help you will greatly improve this.

But from then on you have a rock stable and very transparent system that will not break over time, and making changes is pretty easy.

I made a repo on Codeberg for exactly that purpose, showing people how easy a simple NixOS setup can be.