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No not tired of Trump or Biden but the whole government. The incompetence overall. Please don't harp on one of the presidents all day. BOTH SUCK. In fact if you look real hard you'll realize all of them sucked

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[โ€“] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Don't get stuck on the both sides war. Thats pure right wing propaganda. They gut the government so it cant do anything well, then say "look at that government sucks! We will just buy it up make it private and everything will be ok i pwomise"

Then we get deeper into the shit.

Also, one side is literally nazis, the other is pretty bad at certain policies. Wow what a hard choice.

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Both US parties are genocidal imperialist parties, the state still serves capital. The capitalist state is not the "good guy" here, even if the DNC is in control, because both parties are beholden strictly to capital.

[โ€“] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As soon as you come up with a solution im all ears!

All we can do is vote (and im not certain that matters anymore though I still do)

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Worker organizing, and eventually revolution. Same as all genuine change has come historically, organizing and revolution when organizing isn't enough.

[โ€“] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Im of the opinion with our creature comforts of today, this will not happen in America, and if it does it will take over 30 years for it to get bad enough that anyone wants to risk anything for a revolution of sorts. Plus most Americans dont want a revolution, so youd be fighting each other plus the government.

We will see. Im not in a city so I highly doubt ill ever see anything happen here.

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

The treats are harder to come by, and US imperialism is crumbling, meaning even fewer treats. Further, revolution can't really happen without mass support in the first place.

[โ€“] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Also, one side is literally nazis, the other is ~~pretty bad at certain policies~~ controlled opposition designed to give people the illusion of choice so they don't rise up

So in other words, also Nazis.

[โ€“] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

One side is actively stripping away rights and deporting innocent people.

So youre saying Kamala would have been equally as bad as Drumpf. I dont agree.

I get that both sides suck but its what we have, its not going to change, and one of them is clearly better than the other for individual rights.

[โ€“] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No. I'm saying if Harris had won she'd just be keeping the seat warm for the oligarchs' next pick and wouldn't make any effort to prevent the inevitable.

True. Still better than drump.

[โ€“] lunatique@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Both sides suck. You didn't read that in the original post? I saw Obama and Biden. Bush and trump further the decline of America. The fact that Americans are too stupid to see it is the major factor behind the ruin of America though

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

Statesians aren't "too stupid." Statesians, like everyone else, license themselves to believe that that which benefits them is just. Trying to blame deliberate acceptance of the status quo on a lack of intelligence actually does more to absolve Statesians of our responsibility to tear down the empire from within.